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A06199 Cum bono Deo Raine from the clouds, vpon a choicke angel: or, A returned answere, to that common quæritur of our adversaries, VVhere was your church before Luther? Digested into several meditations, according to the difference of points. Extorted off the author, for stilling the vncessant, and no lesse clamorous coassation of some patmicke frogges, against the lawfulness of our calling. Logie, Andrew. 1624 (1624) STC 16694; ESTC S108810 39,602 80

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o see_v in_o greece_n many_o flourish_a city_n wherein_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o least_o trace_n of_o any_o church_n nor_o vestige_v of_o any_o christian_a doctrine_n omne_fw-la quip_n occupaverat_fw-la mahumetica_fw-la colluvy_n but_o lest_o i_o may_v seem_v here_o vel_fw-la è_fw-la sinu_fw-la proffer_v testem_fw-la as_o be_v ordinary_a with_o our_o adversary_n i_o stick_v not_o to_o defer_v this_o to_o their_o own_o testimony_n or_o the_o testimony_n to_o themselves_o i_o pray_v you_o then_o what_o let_v i_o to_o reason_n here_o by_o way_n of_o analogy_n and_o so_o conclude_v that_o what_o have_v behappen_v this_o or_o these_o particular_a church_n may_v befall_v other_o their_o sister_n nothing_o more_o here_o privilege_v against_o the_o same_o danger_n that_o we_o may_v come_v yet_o near_o and_o strike_v home_o let_v i_o demand_n of_o our_o adversary_n whether_o or_o not_o the_o church_n under_o grace_n shall_v have_v her_o flight_n to_o 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other_o place_n import_v at_o least_o point_v at_o her_o conspicuitie_n and_o visibilitie_n serve_v to_o show_v forth_o her_o variableness_n and_o shadow_v by_o turn_v i_o know_v that_o our_o adversary_n except_v against_o the_o former_a part_n of_o my_o discourse_n where_o i_o conclude_v from_o the_o jewish_a church_n to_o the_o christian_a because_o of_o the_o great_a odds_n here_o and_o diverse_a privilege_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n above_o the_o jewish_a wherefore_o it_o stand_v we_o upon_o to_o eye_n a_o little_a into_o these_o allege_v privilege_n as_o we_o will_v have_v my_o prior_n discourse_n to_o remain_v in_o its_o full_a vigour_n the_o privilege_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n above_o the_o jewish_a at_o least_o allege_v unto_o in_o this_o argument_n i_o find_v in_o special_a to_o be_v these_o two_o the_o first_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o one_o above_o the_o other_o and_o this_o to_o this_o sense_n as_o that_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n without_o the_o 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