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unto_o we_o that_o same_o quicken_a power_n of_o he_o shall_v flow_v into_o us._n answer_n fie_o away_o i_o say_v with_o all_o those_o false_a and_o foolish_a trifle_n 63._o question_n but_o why_o do_v thou_o rather_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o flesh_n then_o of_o the_o godheade_n in_o this_o conjunction_n or_o knit_v together_o answer_n i_o do_v not_o this_o as_o though_o the_o god_n head_n do_v nothing_o here_o when_o as_o contrawise_o in_o very_a deed_n the_o very_a flesh_n of_o christ_n simple_o and_o consider_v in_o itself_o as_o it_o be_v flesh_n do_v not_o quicken_v we_o but_o because_o as_o the_o father_n very_o witty_o speak_v it_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o word_n but_o in_o this_o i_o follow_v christ_n the_o master_n express_o repeat_v the_o name_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n in_o this_o mystery_n of_o our_o conjunction_n with_o he_o because_o we_o can_v be_v join_v with_o he_o but_o by_o reason_n of_o his_o human_a nature_n and_o in_o asmuch_o as_o he_o be_v our_o 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whole_a christ_n be_v offer_v unto_o we_o too_o be_v lay_v hold_n upon_o spiritual_o by_o faith_n so_o far_o be_v it_o off_o that_o we_o shut_v christ_n out_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o diverse_a do_v slander_v us._n 66._o question_n do_v thou_o think_v then_o that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o that_o daily_a partake_n of_o christ_n through_o faith_n and_o that_o which_o be_v make_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n answer_v yea_o i_o think_v that_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n unless_o unbelief_n let_v it_o betwixt_o that_o which_o i_o call_v mere_a spiritual_a &_o that_o which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v sacramental_a and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o not_o concern_v the_o thing_n itself_o neither_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o instrument_n of_o faith_n but_o in_o this_o because_o there_o only_o by_o the_o word_n but_o here_o also_o by_o visible_a sign_n our_o faith_n be_v admonish_v and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v seal_v moreover_o this_o partake_n excel_v the_o word_n in_o this_o that_o the_o simple_a word_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v universal_o set_v forth_o untoo_o the_o people_n but_o the_o sacrament_n be_v give_v untoo_o every_o singular_a person_n as_o it_o be_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n himself_o which_o thing_n do_v wonderful_o profit_v unto_o that_o same_o particular_a and_o full_a persuasion_n that_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o every_o one_o 67._o question_n 67._o question_n but_o do_v thou_o think_v that_o christ_n in_o like_a sort_n be_v set_v forth_o unto_o our_o old_a father_n before_o his_o come_n into_o the_o flesh_n and_o all_o his_o benefit_n aswell_o in_o the_o simple_a word_n as_o in_o the_o type_n and_o sacrament_n join_v to_o the_o word_n also_o to_o be_v apprehend_v and_o lay_v hold_v off_o by_o faith_n answer_n i_o
be_o altogether_o persuade_v so_o for_o the_o self_n same_o christ_n yea_o the_o same_o whole_a christ_n both_o in_o his_o audible_a word_n and_o also_o in_o his_o visible_a word_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v set_v forth_o to_o the_o self_n same_o end_n 68_o question_n i_o have_v almost_o quite_o forget_v that_o which_o i_o will_v glad_o have_v ask_v of_o thou_o to_o wit_n how_o it_o be_v that_o saint_n augustine_n write_v as_o thou_o have_v cite_v that_o the_o sacrament_n can_v work_v no_o such_o astonishment_n as_o miraculous_a thing_n do_v if_o that_o same_o mystery_n of_o the_o unite_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n together_o be_v so_o wonderful_a answer_n i_o have_v answer_v unto_o that_o already_o that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o ask_v of_o the_o sacrament_n themselves_o another_o thing_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o god_n do_v work_v by_o the_o use_n of_o they_o augustine_n therefore_o do_v very_o well_o forbid_v whether_o we_o respect_v the_o 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fruit_n which_o flow_v untoo_o we_o out_o of_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n or_o out_o of_o christ_n accord_v to_o the_o flesh_n shut_v out_o that_o same_o partake_v of_o christ_n himself_o and_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o afterwards_o suffer_v for_o our_o sake_n thou_o do_v even_o as_o if_o reason_v of_o this_o same_o bodily_a life_n thou_o will_v have_v they_o too_o be_v nourish_v with_o meat_n who_o notwithstanding_o do_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n receive_v the_o substance_n of_o meat_n 76._o question_n what_o therefore_o in_o sum_n say_v thou_o be_v to_o be_v determine_v concern_v this_o matter_n answer_n to_o wit_n that_o both_o before_o god_n himself_o promise_v and_o before_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o faith_n jesus_n christ_n be_v always_o present_a and_o also_o the_o whole_a mysterye_n of_o perform_v our_o salvation_n the_o which_o he_o in_o very_a deed_n bestow_v upon_o all_o believer_n &_o all_o believer_n as_o well_o in_o the_o simple_a word_n as_o in_o the_o sacrament_n add_v to_o the_o word_n true_o and_o effectual_o embrace_v for_o 56._o john_n 8._o 56._o abraham_n with_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n see_v the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n which_o be_v a_o subsist_v of_o thing_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o that_o be_v to_o which_o now_o after_o a_o certain_a sort_n those_o thing_n existe_v which_o in_o very_a deed_n be_v not_o notwithstanding_o i_o grant_v the_o thing_n itself_o that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o christ_n himself_o be_v not_o in_o act_n give_fw-ge unto_o they_o according_a too_o the_o flesh_n or_o as_o they_o speak_v indeed_o but_o by_o right_a only_o question_n but_o what_o mean_v this_o thing_n answer_n i_o will_v speak_v therefore_o more_o plain_o and_o now_o i_o say_v in_o deed_n that_o christ_n give_v with_o all_o his_o gift_n be_v both_o signify_v by_o the_o simple_a word_n and_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o offer_v unto_o we_o to_o be_v spiritual_o by_o faith_n as_o we_o have_v say_v lay_v hold_v upon_o too_o 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thing_n that_o yet_o be_v not_o or_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v already_o past_a 77._o question_n when_o i_o consider_v the_o manner_n of_o speech_n which_o belong_v untoo_o the_o sacrament_n i_o think_v that_o i_o find_v somewhat_o to_o object_n against_o thou_o touch_v those_o thing_n that_o thou_o have_v speak_v of_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o sign_n &_o of_o the_o thing_n signify_v and_o also_o as_o touch_v that_o which_o thou_o have_v entreat_v of_o our_o partake_n with_o christ_n answer_n those_o phrase_n of_o speech_n not_o only_o sacramental_a but_o also_o figurative_a be_v partly_o proper_a and_o partly_o borrow_v 78._o question_n which_o be_v proper_a answer_n those_o be_v proper_a which_o distinct_o attribute_v that_o too_o the_o sign_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o sign_n and_o that_o to_o the_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o thing_n as_o when_o circumcision_n be_v call_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o 11._o also_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n ro._n 4._o 11._o and_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n the_o sign_n exo._n 12._o 13._o and_o the_o sabbath_n the_o sign_n of_o call_v too_o memory_n the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n &_o seal_v the_o peculiar_a consecration_n of_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n exod._n 31._o 13._o 17._o and_o those_o same_o two_o censure_n a_o sign_n call_v intoo_o their_o remembrance_n that_o same_o conspiracy_n of_o dathan_n &_o abiron_n num._n 16_o 38._o so_o the_o outward_a ministry_n of_o man_n consider_v a_o part_n from_o the_o inward_a be_v say_v to_o be_v nothing_o 1._o cor._n 3._o 7._o so_o the_o outward_a baptism_n of_o water_n be_v proper_o distinguish_v from_o the_o inward_a efficacy_n of_o the_o spirit_n 1._o pet._n 3._o 21._o question_n but_o i_o find_v in_o no_o place_n that_o this_o same_o word_n sign_n be_v attribute_v too_o baptism_n or_o too_o the_o lord_n supper_n answer_n why_o then_o deny_v they_o too_o be_v sacrament_n for_o sacrament_n undoubted_o be_v sign_n yea_o and_o the_o papist_n themselves_o do_v grant_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o water_n and_o the_o sacramental_a rite_n of_o baptism_n be_v sign_n &_o in_o that_o same_o sacrament_n of_o they_o of_o the_o altar_n they_o do_v at_o least_o appoint_v the_o form_n for_o sign_n further_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o that_o be_v true_a which_o irenaeus_n witness_v that_o i_o may_v pass_v over_o the_o other_o father_n that_o they_o consist_v of_o one_o earthly_a &_o of_o a_o heavenly_a matter_n whereof_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o that_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o this_o 79._o question_n and_o what_o be_v those_o same_o sacramental_a or_o figurative_a form_n answer_n first_o of_o all_o they_o be_v those_o thing_n to_o which_o the_o name_n of_o the_o element_n be_v attribute_v too_o the_o thing_n signify_v as_o when_o the_o lamb_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o passover_o exod._n 12._o 11._o question_n and_o yet_o there_o be_v some_o which_o say_v that_o the_o pesach_n or_o passeover_n be_v proper_o speak_v of_o the_o pass_v itself_o answer_n go_v to_o be_v it_o so_o but_o yet_o very_o the_o pass_a itself_o can_v not_o be_v eat_v therefore_o they_o must_v in_o that_o place_n at_o the_o least_o grant_n that_o the_o lamb_n itself_o be_v call_v the_o passover_o where_o the_o passover_o be_v say_v to_o be_v prepare_v &_o eat_v so_o christ_n be_v call_v of_o john_n the_o lamb_n of_o god_n and_o be_v say_v of_o saint_n paul_n to_o be_v the_o passover_o 1._o cor._n 5._o 7._o christian_n be_v one_o bread_n 1._o cor._n 10._o 17._o 80._o question_n these_o thing_n very_o satisfy_v i_o go_v forward_o i_o pray_v thou_o declare_v unto_o i_o the_o other_o sort_n of_o sacramental_a speech_n answer_n the_o other_o sort_n be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o this_o whereby_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o element_n so_o the_o stone_n set_v up_o by_o jacob_n be_v call_v bethel_n gen._n 28._o 22._o so_o the_o seven_o cow_n and_o the_o seven_o ear_n be_v seven_o year_n gen._n 41._o 27._o so_o the_o name_n of_o jehovah_n in_o innumerable_a place_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o covenaunt_n yea_o and_o to_o the_o very_a altar_n of_o moses_n exod._n 17._o 15._o so_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o tongue_n of_o canaan_n be_v understand_v the_o profession_n of_o pure_a religion_n esai_n 19_o 18._o so_o the_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o dove_n john_n 1._o 33._o to_o be_v short_a so_o the_o rock_n be_v christ_n question_n yea_o but_o that_o same_o bodily_a rock_n be_v not_o say_v to_o be_v christ_n but_o that_o same_o spiritual_a rock_n answer_n i_o know_v very_o well_o that_o same_o sophistical_a startinghole_n as_o though_o forsooth_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o thing_n itself_o and_o not_o of_o the_o sign_n but_o what_o will_v these_o foolish_a sophister_n answer_n if_o i_o shall_v ask_v they_o whether_o paul_n yet_o mean_v not_o that_o same_o rock_n whereout_o that_o ryver_n of_o water_n flow_v sure_o they_o can_v answer_n nothing_o whereby_o their_o sophistry_n shall_v not_o be_v easy_o convince_v for_o they_o must_v needs_o come_v to_o this_o point_n that_o they_o must_v confess_v that_o the_o name_n of_o spiritual_a rock_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o that_o very_a natural_a rock_n attribute_v to_o christ_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o bodily_a rock_n that_o be_v as_o they_o themselves_o interpret_v it_o consider_v spiritual_o and_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n therefore_o they_o snarl_v themselves_o in_o their_o own_o snare_n or_o else_o they_o must_v grant_v that_o christ_n be_v call_v the_o rock_n because_o he_o be_v shadow_v by_o a_o spiritual_a signification_n take_v from_o
seal_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o everlasting_a life_n but_o some_o certain_a thing_n that_o god_n have_v simple_o appoint_v also_o for_o this_o end_n that_o he_o may_v signify_v some_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v fulfil_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o in_o that_o noah_n be_v save_v out_o of_o the_o water_n and_o by_o the_o water_n themselves_o in_o the_o ark_n it_o be_v a_o type_n or_o figure_n of_o baptism_n whereby_o the_o church_n shut_v up_o as_o it_o be_v in_o christ_n be_v save_v so_o israel_n pass_v through_o the_o sea_n and_o come_v safe_a through_o a_o cloud_n from_o heaven_n shroud_a they_o it_o represent_v the_o mysterye_n of_o the_o same_o baptism_n 102._o question_n but_o why_o do_v thou_o use_v the_o word_n of_o seal_n answer_n that_o i_o may_v meet_v with_o the_o slander_n of_o they_o that_o say_v that_o we_o take_v baptism_n only_o as_o a_o token_n or_o rather_o only_o as_o it_o be_v a_o difference_n whereby_o christian_n be_v distinguish_v from_o they_o that_o be_v no_o christian_n forasmuch_o as_o this_o sacrament_n succeed_v circumcision_n which_o be_v not_o only_o a_o sign_n but_o also_o a_o seal_n of_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n 103._o question_n i_o will_v therefore_o thou_o shall_v show_v unto_o i_o particular_o the_o cause_n the_o part_n and_o the_o effect_n of_o baptism_n answer_n the_o efficient_a cause_n be_v christ_n the_o outward_a &_o visible_a matter_n be_v water_n with_o the_o sacramental_a rite_n the_o inward_a &_o invisible_a matter_n be_v christ_n himself_o with_o his_o gift_n the_o outward_a form_n be_v the_o manner_n of_o administration_n itself_o ordain_v of_o christ_n himself_o the_o inward_a form_n the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o essencial_a part_n be_v the_o sign_n &_o the_o thing_n signify_v the_o whole_a part_n be_v the_o element_n christ_n himself_o with_o his_o gift_n the_o action_n and_o the_o word_n 104._o question_n but_o what_o be_v this_o word_n answer_n teach_v you_o all_o baptise_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n the_o son_n &_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mat._n 28._o 19_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n he_o that_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v mark_n 16._o 15._o &_o 16._o 105._o question_n what_o mean_v in_o the_o name_n answer_n hereby_o be_v declare_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o solemn_a vow_n whereby_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v do_v whole_o vow_v himself_o too_o one_o god_n in_o trinity_n also_o a_o solemn_a action_n in_o which_o god_n witness_v that_o he_o receive_v he_o that_o be_v baptize_v intoo_o his_o own_o hand_n that_o in_o very_a deed_n this_o same_o form_n be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o epicomie_n or_o summarie_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a faith_n with_o the_o solemn_a seal_n thereof_o 106._o question_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o it_o seem_v that_o the_o apostle_n change_v somewhat_o in_o that_o same_o form_n as_o be_v say_v to_o have_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n answer_n by_o these_o word_n it_o be_v not_o show_v after_o what_o manner_n the_o apostle_n baptize_v for_o who_o can_v probable_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o express_a prescription_n of_o our_o master_n in_o evident_a and_o plain_a word_n command_v do_v change_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o and_o it_o be_v most_o plain_a throughout_o the_o whole_a ecclesiastical_a history_n that_o that_o form_n be_v always_o keep_v 107._o question_n but_o to_o what_o end_n be_v that_o same_o into_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n answer_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o end_n itself_o the_o fruit_n itself_o and_o to_o be_v short_a the_o very_a matter_n itself_o of_o baptism_n may_v be_v declare_v question_n but_o what_o be_v the_o end_n of_o baptism_n answer_n this_o shall_v very_o well_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o effect_n question_n and_o what_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o baptism_n answer_n if_o thou_o call_v baptism_n that_o only_o which_o the_o minister_n do_v the_o effect_n of_o baptism_n be_v nothing_o question_n this_o seem_v a_o hard_a say_n to_o i_o answer_n and_o yet_o so_o paul_n speak_v when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o which_o plant_v and_o he_o 7._o 1._o cor._n 3._o 7._o which_o water_v be_v nothing_o but_o the_o case_n stand_v thus_o in_o very_a deed_n the_o ministry_n of_o man_n be_v somewhat_o yea_o indeed_o it_o be_v that_o very_a thing_n that_o whosoever_o despise_v despise_v god_n himself_o but_o as_o i_o have_v say_v before_o so_o god_n 16._o luke_n 10._o 16._o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o man_n that_o the_o whole_a work_v power_n rest_v in_o god_n himself_o neither_o do_v the_o same_o here_o fall_v out_o as_o in_o they_o who_o god_n use_v to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o this_o mortal_a life_n of_o man_n for_o father_n in_o beget_n of_o child_n be_v such_o instrument_n of_o god_n that_o the_o engender_v power_n of_o the_o body_n and_o the_o receive_a power_n of_o pour_v in_o life_n be_v engraft_v in_o father_n and_o mother_n and_o the_o same_o god_n have_v give_v his_o power_n both_o to_o meat_n for_o nourishment_n and_o too_o medicine_n for_o cure_v of_o disease_n but_o in_o those_o which_o concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o man_n lose_v in_o themselves_o he_o so_o use_v their_o work_n who_o he_o appoint_v too_o the_o word_n of_o salvation_n and_o too_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o beside_o the_o declaration_n of_o his_o will_n from_o who_o they_o be_v send_v they_o bring_v to_o pass_v nothing_o at_o all_o therefore_o the_o effect_n of_o the_o minister_n be_v this_o that_o pour_v forth_o water_n he_o wet_v he_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o now_o the_o only_a effect_n of_o water_n pour_v forth_o whether_o it_o be_v common_a water_n or_o sacramental_a appoint_v to_o a_o holy_a use_n if_o it_o be_v simple_o consider_v in_o itself_o be_v that_o his_o body_n who_o be_v sprinkle_v with_o it_o be_v make_v wet_a and_o wash_v but_o he_o which_o baptise_v inward_o by_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o his_o divine_a power_n do_v alone_o 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in_o upon_o that_o office_n but_o it_o do_v not_o defile_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v do_v of_o he_o as_o if_o he_o be_v lawful_o call_v 143._o question_n but_o that_o same_o baptism_n administer_v by_o sacrifice_a priest_n be_v defile_v with_o many_o spot_v answer_n thou_o say_v very_o true_a but_o that_o same_o essential_a form_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o singular_a goodness_n of_o god_n have_v remain_v in_o it_o the_o truth_n whereof_o can_v be_v hyndred_n by_o any_o add_a devise_n 144._o question_n shall_v not_o baptism_n then_o be_v true_a baptism_n unless_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o the_o institution_n be_v use_v answer_n no_o very_o it_o can_v not_o be_v for_o the_o form_n geve_v every_o thing_n his_o essence_n or_o be_v question_n but_o if_o the_o fault_n in_o the_o form_n as_o thou_o say_v be_v so_o great_a that_o it_o defile_v the_o thing_n itself_o do_v not_o a_o fault_n in_o the_o very_a explication_n of_o baptism_n itself_o do_v it_o much_o more_o in_o 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