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relictu_fw-la sum_fw-la solus_fw-la but_o this_o be_v full_o satisfy_v in_o the_o first_o part_n or_o begin_n of_o the_o former_a dialogue_n in_o the_o next_o place_n to_o wit_n pag._n 10._o he_o come_v to_o depre_v the_o glory_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n during_o his_o abode_n here_o upon_o earth_n and_o time_n of_o his_o passion_n but_o all_o this_o most_o impertinent_o see_v the_o radiant_a splendour_n and_o visibility_n of_o christ_n his_o church_n be_v cheiff_o to_o begin_v and_o then_o for_o ever_o after_o to_o continue_v till_o the_o world_n end_n after_o the_o descend_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o not_o before_o this_o do_v the_o author_n come_v to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o tenn_o persecution_n by_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n prove_v from_o thence_o the_o obscurity_n of_o christ_n church_n in_o pag._n 25._o to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o these_o persecution_n according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o persecution_n be_v so_o far_o from_o make_v the_o church_n of_o 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world_n saint_n jerome_n meaning_n only_o of_o certain_a part_n of_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d second_o s._n jerome_n here_o take_v the_o word_n arian_n in_o a_o secundarye_a signification_n for_o here_o he_o call_v they_o improper_o and_o abusive_a arian_n who_o through_o ignorance_n do_v subscrybe_n to_o the_o arian_n heresy_n for_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o great_a number_n of_o bishop_n which_o come_v out_o of_o all_o part_n of_o christendum_fw-la to_o arimine_fw-la and_o be_v deceive_v by_o the_o arian_n through_o their_o mistake_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n omosios_n and_o there_o upon_o material_o only_o they_o subscrybed_n to_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o arian_n but_o the_o same_o bishop_n be_v after_o admonish_v of_o their_o error_n do_v instant_o correct_v the_o same_o and_o bewail_v their_o mistake_n with_o tear_n and_o penance_n thus_o we_o see_v the_o true_a relation_n of_o this_o point_n real_o prove_v a_o actual_a visibility_n of_o the_o orthodoxal_a christian_n at_o that_o very_a 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assemble_v chief_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o the_o arian_n heresy_n at_o which_o council_n athanasius_n himself_o be_v present_a this_o council_n consist_v of_o three_o hundred_o bishop_n and_o more_o the_o great_a part_n whereof_o by_o their_o voice_n do_v absolute_o condemn_v the_o arian_n heresy_n now_o how_o can_v it_o be_v conceive_v that_o all_o the_o say_a bishop_n speak_v nothing_o of_o the_o orthodoxal_a laity_n of_o that_o time_n except_v only_a athanasius_n shall_v instant_o either_o a_o fore_n or_o after_o apostatate_n or_o through_o fear_n of_o persecution_n external_o profess_v the_o arian_n heresy_n again_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o point_n be_v further_o confirm_v from_o the_o epistle_n which_o athanasius_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o thebes_n and_o lybia_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o council_n of_o alexandria_n do_v write_v to_o pope_n paelix_fw-la the_o second_o of_o that_o name_n wherein_o they_o unanimous_o protest_v to_o defend_v with_o all_o christian_a resolution_n their_o orthodoxal_a faith_n against_o their_o enemy_n the_o arian_n three_o the_o falsehood_n of_o the_o former_a assertion_n be_v evict_v from_o that_o that_o many_o father_n and_o doctor_n live_v in_o the_o very_a age_n of_o aâ—hanasius_n and_o libertus_fw-la and_o diverse_a of_o they_o even_o in_o the_o day_n of_o athanasius_n and_o well_o know_v to_o he_o do_v refute_v and_o contradict_v ex_fw-la professo_fw-la the_o arian_n heresy_n in_o their_o learned_a write_n as_o for_o example_n eunomium_fw-la basil_n theolog_fw-la gregory_n nazianzen_n trinitate_fw-la gregory_n nyssene_n catecheses_n cyrill_n of_o jerusalem_n trinitate_fw-la hilarius_n timot._n ambrose_n 69._o epiphanius_n and_o some_o other_o now_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o premise_n can_v it_o be_v but_o dream_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o professor_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n in_o those_o day_n but_o only_o athanasius_n or_o liberius_n pag._n 25._o the_o pamphleter_n leave_v example_n &_o 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