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A15110 A discoverie of Brownisme: or, a brief declaration of some of the errors and abhominations daily practiced and increased among the English company of the seperation remayning for the present at Amsterdam in Holland. By Thomas White White, Thomas, fl. 1605. 1605 (1605) STC 25408; ESTC S101313 15,645 36

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