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A32902 A testimony to the fulfilling the promise of God relating to such women who through the pouring out of Gods Spirit upon them are become prophetesses, daughters, and handmaidens and their prophecying, teaching, preaching,and praying through the operation of the Spirit of Christ, in the church proved lawfully by several plain Scripture testimonies and examples, out of both the Old and New Testaments, both under the time of the Law and also in the Gospel despensation, and the common objection alleged against the same from the Apostle Pauls words in I Cor. 14, 34 and I Tim. 2, 12 &c. clearly answered : recommended to the consciences of all that value the testimony of Holy Scripture / by one who hath diligently searched the Scripture, and hath had an high esteem thereof from his youth, Thomas Camm. Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707. 1689 (1689) Wing C396A; ESTC R5431 15,913 20

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