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A14057 A new dialogue vvherin is conteyned the examinatio[n] of the messe and of that kynde of priesthode, whych is ordeined to saye messe: and to offer vp for remyssyon of synne, the body and bloud of Christe agayne. Turner, William, d. 1568. 1548 (1548) STC 24363; ESTC S108032 34,102 104

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