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A10609 A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name. 1590 (1590) STC 20881; ESTC S115774 171,783 224

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remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr 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nor_o yet_o the_o lay_v elder_n but_o the_o lawful_a ecclesiastical_a governor_n or_o magistrate_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o say_v dic_fw-la senioribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tell_v the_o seniorie_n of_o the_o church_n another_o thing_n tell_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o church_n simple_o the_o 2._o demonstration_n where_o all_o sort_n of_o elder_n must_v be_v demonstration_n demonstration_n there_o must_v be_v the_o join_n of_o these_o office_n in_o one_o but_o all_o sort_n of_o elder_n ought_v to_o be_v in_o every_o congregation_n as_o in_o the_o chap._n 10._o for_o bishop_n 12._o for_o elder_n ergo_fw-la to_o the_o mayor_n i_o doubt_v of_o the_o verity_n of_o this_o mayor_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a where_o every_o sort_n of_o ancient_n must_v be_v there_o shall_v be_v combination_n and_o join_v of_o the_o office_n in_o one_o for_o in_o the_o city_n of_o london_n be_v the_o ancient_n of_o every_o corporation_n and_o mystery_n to_o wait_v on_o the_o lord_n maior_n and_o to_o assemble_v at_o a_o folkemote_a ergo_fw-la after_o your_o mind_n they_o must_v join_v their_o office_n company_n and_o mystery_n all_o in_o one_o they_o may_v join_v the_o presence_n of_o their_o person_n they_o need_v not_o conjoin_v or_o confound_v the_o office_n together_o in_o one_o to_o make_v one_o entire_a office_n consist_v of_o they_o all_o to_o the_o minor_n preach_v and_o unpreach_v elder_n doctoral_a and_o pastoral_n can_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n neither_o need_n be_v for_o whence_o shall_v a_o man_n nourish_v they_o as_o demosthenes_n say_v what_o from_o heaven_n for_o if_o they_o be_v nourish_v from_o the_o earth_n the_o increase_n thereof_o like_a unto_o the_o caterpillar_n they_o will_v eat_v up_o every_o green_a thing_n if_o you_o say_v every_o sort_n of_o they_o be_v prove_v before_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v disprove_v also_o before_o this_o minor_a be_v false_a for_o if_o they_o 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exercise_n the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n as_o they_o be_v call_v unto_o it_o as_o for_o the_o second_o they_o be_v not_o unlike_o our_o church_n warden_n or_o sideman_n if_o any_o such_o be_v which_o i_o rather_o believe_v not_o the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n ibidem_fw-la demonstrat_n idem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la it_o be_v dangerous_a to_o permit_v to_o one_o man_n he_o do_v not_o say_v it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o one_o to_o do_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v dangerous_a in_o open_a consistory_n be_v direct_v by_o law_n when_o wherefore_o and_o against_o who_o to_o do_v it_o for_o so_o it_o be_v less_o dangerous_a then_o if_o many_o have_v to_o do_v in_o it_o go_v only_o of_o head_n and_o without_o all_o form_n or_o direction_n of_o law_n as_o be_v use_v by_o your_o eldership_n the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 6._o demonstrat_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o c._n 11._o sect_n 6._o it_o open_v a_o way_n to_o tyranny_n and_o 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excommunication_n it_o be_v according_a to_o s._n paul_n practice_n 1._o corinth_n 5._o where_o he_o excommunicate_v hymeneus_n and_o alexander_n 1._o tim._n 1._o ca._n the_o 17._o allegation_n 165._o demonstrat_n see_v the_o abstract_n pag._n 165._o it_o be_v forbid_v by_o that_o filthy_a puddle_n the_o canon_n law_n that_o be_v filthy_o speak_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n if_o the_o abstracter_n have_v understand_v the_o law_n he_o bring_v he_o may_v have_v find_v a_o answer_n where_o he_o find_v the_o objection_n but_o be_v this_o with_o our_o demonstrator_n a_o good_a argument_n the_o canon_n law_n forbid_v it_o ergo_fw-la unlawful_a it_o so_o forbid_v priest_n marriage_n and_o the_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n be_v they_o therefore_o unlawful_a the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o s._n paul_n and_o not_o in_o the_o rest_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n he_o give_v only_o the_o direction_n 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overseer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d governement_n or_o governor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d man_n set_v over_o other_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ruler_n guide_n or_o director_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d feeder_n &_o ruler_n which_o they_o can_v be_v except_o they_o have_v some_o rule_n government_n &_o authority_n but_o this_o rule_n and_o authority_n be_v but_o ecclesiastical_a whereas_o that_o which_o be_v affect_v by_o the_o apostle_n be_v civil_a which_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n whether_o it_o be_v whole_o or_o in_o part_n condemn_v by_o that_o general_a doctrine_n there_o deliver_v by_o our_o saviour_n do_v now_o rest_v to_o be_v consider_v we_o be_v therefore_o in_o these_o word_n vos_fw-fr auten_fw-mi non_fw-fr sic_fw-la it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o among_o you_o to_o note_v these_o two_o thing_n viz._n unto_o who_o such_o prohibition_n reach_v &_o what_o rule_n it_o be_v which_o be_v there_o forbid_a first_o it_o be_v not_o speak_v to_o the_o apostle_n as_o 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i_o a_o fellow_n elder_n not_o to_o tyrannize_v over_o the_o flock_n but_o to_o be_v example_n to_o the_o faithful_a the_o place_n of_o peter_n and_o your_o collection_n make_v against_o yourselves_o retortion_n retortion_n to_o say_v minister_n may_v have_v dominion_n over_o the_o people_n but_o minister_n may_v not_o have_v dominion_n over_o minister_n that_o be_v minister_n may_v rule_v and_o not_o be_v rule_v the_o drift_n of_o the_o place_n be_v minister_n may_v not_o tyrannize_v or_o have_v absolute_a command_n over_o the_o people_n or_o over_o one_o another_o i_o refer_v i_o to_o the_o answer_n make_v to_o the_o second_o demonstration_n of_o this_o matter_n the_o 4._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o every_o man_n fault_n must_v be_v hear_v remonstrance_n demonstra_fw-la cypr._n lib._n 1._o epi._n 3._o remonstrance_n where_o the_o accuser_n and_o witness_n be_v ergo_fw-la every_o minister_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o flock_n the_o illative_a be_v 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rome_n rheg_n or_o constantinople_n alexand_n tavis_fw-la be_v equal_a for_o the_o ministry_n and_o heir_n of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a the_o 6._o allegation_n the_o minister_n in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n none_o above_o other_o minist_n demonstrat_n muscu_n ●e_v come_v de_fw-fr verbi_fw-la minist_n be_v subject_a to_o no_o head_n nor_o precedent_n that_o be_v no_o universal_a head_n otherwise_o musculus_fw-la upon_o the_o 20._o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n of_o matth._n allow_v governor_n precedent_n ruler_n in_o the_o church_n the_o 7._o allegation_n a_o bishop_n take_v the_o honour_n from_o the_o minister_n 8.2_o demonstra_fw-la idem_fw-la super_fw-la 2._o thess_n 8.2_o be_v the_o first_o step_n to_o papacy_n that_o be_v translate_v from_o they_o to_o erect_v a_o new_a ministry_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n or_o a_o illimitable_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n which_o a_o bishopric_n under_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o neither_o of_o the_o 7._o step_n to_o papacy_n the_o 8._o allegation_n christ_n do_v forbid_v the_o apostle_n primacy_n and_o dominion_n holuet_fw-la demonstraet_n confess_v holuet_fw-la that_o be_v absolute_a worldly_a avaritious_a ambiti_fw-la ous_a dominion_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n not_o all_o moderate_a government_n and_o authority_n whatsoever_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o 9_o allegation_n equal_a power_n be_v give_v to_o all_o minister_n save_v for_o order_n 18._o demonstrat_n confe_fw-mi hel._n c._n 18._o order_n include_v superiority_n and_o exclude_v not_o dignity_n remonstr_n remonstr_n nullus_fw-la dominium_fw-la in_o episcopos_fw-la usurpavit_fw-la the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n christ_n 20._o demonstration_n demonstration_n matth._n 25._o v._n forbid_v ambition_n and_o not_o dominion_n as_o musculus_fw-la do_v expound_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n caluine_n and_o other_o expound_v it_o against_o superiority_n but_o admit_v that_o dominion_n be_v ambition_n because_o it_o cause_v a_o man_n to_o aspire_v above_o his_o fellow_n minister_n there_o be_v no_o wit_n in_o this_o misshape_a answer_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n the_o objection_n do_v not_o permit_v so_o much_o unto_o you_o dominion_n in_o the_o better_a part_n take_v for_o rule_n be_v most_o contrary_v to_o ambition_n it_o must_v be_v unjust_a dominion_n that_o cause_v ambition_n as_o to_o conspire_v against_o his_o superior_a and_o to_o aspire_v to_o a_o high_a place_n or_o seat_n your_o factious_a study_n may_v be_v call_v ambition_n the_o 2._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n the_o greek_a word_n signify_v rule_v with_o oppression_n demonstration_n demonstration_n which_o be_v forbid_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n that_o be_v not_o so_o luke_n 22.25_o v._o use_v the_o single_a verb_n to_o rule_v the_o son_n of_o zebedee_n desire_v not_o to_o oppress_v but_o to_o rule_v it_o be_v certain_a reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n one_o place_n must_v expound_v the_o other_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o text_n expound_v all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v one_o and_o consignificant_a term_n which_o be_v absolute_o tyrannous_o or_o ambitious_o to_o govern_v and_o rule_v or_o violent_o to_o rule_v and_o over-rule_v or_o else_o a_o absurd_a interpretation_n will_v follow_v of_o the_o word_n 19_o act._n 16._o v._n v._n 19_o act._n 16._o v._n the_o man_n in_o who_o the_o ill_a spirit_n be_v run_v upon_o the_o vagabond_n jew_n and_o overcome_v they_o and_o prevail_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v violent_a dominion_n and_o mastery_n over_o they_o or_o 1._o pet._n 5.3_o v._n not_o as_o exercise_v a_o proud_a dominion_n over_o the_o lord_n heritage_n if_o the_o word_n signify_v not_o so_o s._n peter_n shall_v forewarn_v they_o of_o that_o which_o yourselves_o say_v be_v no_o fault_n therefore_o it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o noon_n day_n the_o child_n of_o zebedee_n and_o the_o apostle_n be_v school_v for_o that_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contentious_a and_o ambitious_a desire_n of_o rule_v and_o that_o civil_o and_o absolute_o the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n
causam_fw-la the_o judge_n and_o justice_n be_v less_o able_a to_o execute_v the_o law_n at_o full_a by_o reason_n of_o man_n insolency_n and_o custom_n of_o offence_n demonstrator_n absurdity_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n ergo_fw-la shall_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o parliament_n must_v erect_v some_o other_o new_a kind_n of_o magistracy_n the_o consequencie_n be_v ergo_fw-la they_o must_v execute_v the_o law_n with_o more_o severity_n if_o the_o minister_n be_v not_o able_a to_o direct_v in_o godliness_n it_o be_v but_o a_o poor_a help_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v of_o your_o elder_n for_o such_o direction_n the_o 2._o demonstration_n if_o christian_a magistrate_n must_v maintain_v the_o order_n set_v down_o by_o 1._o cor._n 12.8_o demonstration_n demonstration_n v._o then_o elder_n must_v be_v under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o they_o be_v etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la 49._o esai_n 23._o you_o have_v be_v answer_v and_o reanswered_a again_o for_o that_o allegation_n of_o text_n 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say_v you_o break_v therein_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o god_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n cyprian_n lib._n 3._o ep_v 10._o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o his_o charge_n without_o counsel_n of_o elder_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o consent_n of_o people_n his_o meaning_n be_v he_o will_v do_v nothing_o i_o a_o privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n by_o any_o domestical_a determination_n but_o with_o the_o privity_n and_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v but_o in_o consistory_n open_o or_o which_o be_v consult_v and_o conclude_v upon_o in_o synod_n public_o before_o so_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v prejudicial_a but_o these_o be_v minister_n that_o assist_v he_o a_o bishop_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n the_o elder_n and_o other_o officer_n have_v power_n to_o absolve_v as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n 14._o demonstrat_n cypr._n epist_n 14._o remonstrance_n lib._n 3._o epist_n 14._o you_o quote_v not_o the_o 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