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A91478 Susanna's apologie against the elders. Or A vindication of Susanna Parr; one of those two women lately excommunicated by Mr Lewis Stycley, and his church in Exeter. / Composed and published by her selfe, for the clearing of her own innocency, and the satisfaction of all others, who desire to know the true reason of their so rigorous proceedings against her. Parr, Susanna. 1659 (1659) Wing P551; Thomason E1784_2; ESTC R209665 59,393 127

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