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A96887 A conference of some Christians in church-fellow-ship, about the way of Christ with his people, and the result therefrom. This serveth only by way of introduction to take off the reproaches, that are cast upon pastour and people, whose earnest care and endeavour is to walke with a right foote in that holy way. Which is held forth here by the light of the sacred Scripture, as it appeares unto them, and how curious and circumspect their walke should be, who pretend to it, and to walke therein. The scandalls in and against the way are removed as they could be. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1656 (1656) Wing W3485; Thomason E868_4; ESTC R207653 29,701 36

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A CONFERENCE OF Some Christians in Church-fellowship about the way of Christ with His people and the Result therefrom This serveth only by way of Introduction to take off the Reproaches that are cast upon Pastour and people whose earnest care and Endeavour is to walke with a right foote in that Holy way Which is held forth here by the light of the sacred Scripture as it appeares unto them and how Curious and Circumspect their walke should be who pretend to it and to walke therein The scandalls in and against the way are removed as they could be For our selves Brethren our Conscience sufficeth but for you our Name also had need to be pretious and honourable for we would have our words savour sweetly with you then so must our name also Augustine Stand in the wayes and see and aske for the old pathes which is the good way and walke therein and yee shall finde rest for your soules But they said we will not walke therein Jer. 6. 16. He that doth Truth cometh to the Light that his deedes may be made manifest that they are wrought in God Joh 3. 21. LONDON Printed according to Order for Henry Cripps in Popes-head-Alley 1656. A RESVLT Of a Serious Debate first with our selves alone and apart seeking God in these matters to Whom Interpretations doe belong Then altogether taking our Pastour with us to seeke-out the truth of the matters in order to a cleare resolution to those four Questions before specified in the Epistle to the Reverend Ministers proposed to us by a reverend and godly Minister requiring a Reason from us of our way and practise therein The Introduction Sheweth in the Entrance into it and close of it the occasion and scope of this Conference It serveth also to vindicate our Pastour from the Reproaches of wicked men and jealousies of the Godly against him And to justifie the Truth of the way and of our walke therein to be according to the mind of God expressed in His Word our desire also and endeavour to walke therein in all pleasing before Him SECT I. Honourable FOr so you are if you are pretious in our Lords eyes You were pleased to stoop very low and so an humble person can doe and yet lower if need be when you turned in to me lesse indeed then the least of all Saints which is as little as can be And yet I hope as I pray not lesse in any ones eye than I am in my own But whatever I am by the grace of God I am what I am Now to the businesse you were pleased to propose to mee and require resolution from mee thereunto These to my best remembrance you called Circumstantials onely matters of fact rather than of faith of an inferiour nature and degree which may be done or left undone and yet therein walking up to our light the Command of God is not broken nor the bond of love with men And yet to speake a word to this in passage onely I humbly conceive even in these matters decency and order must be observed and if we looke our worke should finde acceptance with the Lord it must be done in faith also for howsoever the worke be wee suppose it relateth to God and his service and but a Circumstance about the worke rather than of the nature essence or substance of the same yet all this falleth under a command and failing herein our worship is marred being not performed after the due order a We may say of Circumstances as of Relatives these have the least entitie but they have the greatest efficacie Circumstances carry much in our matters with men much more in warre they carry all with God these make all or marre all these overthrow our actions if they be not rightly and duly observed For the Lord stands as much upon Circumstances as he doth upon dutyes Hee will have them done and well done after the due manner and order by himselfe prescribed or else as well undone because the same Lord that commanded the matter commanded also the manner of our service indeed the manner is all But to let this passe for the present The things you charged upon mee to give you an account of as to my faith therein and practise about them were to my thinking Lord howsoever in common account and thoughts of others highly relating to the glory of God the beauty of his holinesse the peace and welfare of his people such like or the same with these mentioned in the title page and in the Epistle to the Rev Ministers SECT II. TO these things you desired me yea you charged mee to give you my opinion and if in the Negative then to give you the reason of my Contrary Judgement unto yours I tooke this at the first hearing and so doe still to be a matter too high for mee and indeed at that present was minded how ever you charged mee not to meddle in it least as was said of one you know by whom A good cause should have a weake Defendant Yet upon after-thoughts and taking Counsell with God upon whom the Creature depends every moment for his being and for all his good he hath and quickly after communing with my brethren in Fellowship with me about it as I beleeve your intent and I am assured my duty was to doe and taking our Minister with us and seeking to God againe altogether we resolved by the helpe of his grace to endeavour to give you an account of our matters according to your demands and as our God should be pleased to give in to us to give forth to you keeping all along as close to Him and His Word as possibly through the supply of His grace wee can So you see now what is done and wee are full of hope sith it was our full desire and endeavour you will finde our words so ordered all along how weakly soever and our matters so disposed in the strength of his grace which wee have sought for as that you will conclude of us That wee are as unwilling to give any offence to your worthy selfe or any other of your brethren in office with you as much honoured by us as well you can thinke as wee would be to offend the Apple of our Eye and rather breake our owne bones then be a meanes or just occasion to breake the peace of the Church or of any good man there so you will not account the whole Nation with every Parish a Church and the rich man the good man and best amongst them there If these or any one of these are pleased God is infinitely displeased We seek not to please men but God And pleasing Him we cannot thinke we can displease any good-man The words we reade Caent 2. 7. together with the Note on the side we observed thereupon was very pressing upon us I charge you by the roes and by the hindes of the field that yee stirre-not-up nor awaken my Love untill shee please The Note upon