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A91474 The watcher: or, The stone cut out of the mountains without hands, striking at the feet of the image, whose head is gold, and brest of silver, and thighs of brass, and legs of iron, and feet part iron and part clay, Dan. 2. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35. Or, A discovery of the ground and end of all forms, professions, sects and opinions, and also how they now are made as friends, and joyn hand in hand against the substance, the life and power of God, which is now made manifest in his sons and daughters (according to his promise) as hath been plainly manifest in several meetings betwixt the people called Quakers, and the people called Baptists, which is here describ'd. And also a description of the true Church, ... / VVritten by a friend to all tender hearted ones, who hunger and thirst after God, who are hoping and seeking in forms for life, to the directing of their mindes, where and how to finde the true light which leads into the true life and power of Godliness, the end of all forms, where I rest with all who in spirit read me, who am known to them who are without, by the name, Iames Parnell. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P541; Thomason E845_18; ESTC R621 62,535 56

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and Flocks and Heards then they have a Law even to devour them and their whole estates and this is far from Gospel Ministers nay Jesus Christ the Light saw their fore-fathers and marked them out to be the ravening wolves Mat. 7.15 16. in sheeps cloathing as these doth now appear to any but those that love to have it so for so long as you put into their mouthes they cry peace peace and speak you fare and calls you christians and beloved but put not into their mouthes then they even prepare war then they have a Law for you to take treble damage from you 2 Pet. 2.3 and so fulfils the Apostles words Oh what a horrible filthy thing is here committed in the land are not they plaine ravening wolves that would devour hoth body and soul Now you people of England consider where you are and whom you follow and whither you are going and see now who is your fore-fathers and see now how you have walked by tradition and form and have been blinded by a vain profession and outside-worship and so have taken Antichrist for Christ and the Ministers of Antichrist for the Ministers of Christ and have put Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness and your fear towards God hath beene taught by the precepts of men Isa 29.13 and they have taught for Doctrine the traditions of men as I have before proved how many things they have led you in by tradition without any Scripture proofes though to you they have been Oracles of God but now they are searched by the light they are made manifest to be vaine heathennish traditions and thus the blind have led the blind along and many of them into the ditch but yet I say not but the Lord hath had his people in all ages those who was zealous and faithfull and true in what they knew but I know the Priests have been long utter enemies to God and his truth and the tares have long covered the wheat and in the time of ignorance God winked but now the Light shines out of Darkness and now is the separation and gathering the sheep from the goats the wheat from the tares and to convince the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment because the Prince of the Ayre is judged and now the Lord doth require all every whereto repent and they that love the light will bring their deeds to the light that the light may prove them whether they be wrought in God and it is not to say you wil follow your forefathers and go on the old way for such are they that hate the light and despise it and love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evill and so having drunk old wine doth not straightway desire new for they say the old is better and those are they that cry up the old way and cry away with new wayes and new Lights and this is the condemnation of the world Iohn 3.19 20. light is come into the world and men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil Light is now to them who have alwayes been in darkness and truth is new to them who have alwayes lived in deceit but the light is the same as ever it was for it is unchangeable and the truth is the same So people take heed of obstinancy and wilful blindness and love not to be deceived for now the light plainly and clearly shines and here your old way is plainly laid open what it is and from whence it is and also your Priests and though they be more refined within this late years than they was before it is because the Light is more broken forth within this late years so that many is come to see their deceit and declare against them and now they are but the more subtiler and closer deceivers Satan transformed into anothe shape more like the light but still they have no parted with their great benefices add Augmentations or tythes nor the chiefest place of the Assembly nor their long gowns though they are almost ashamed of their colour nor to be called of men Master nor from seeking their gain from their quarter nor from making a trade of other mens words nor from their lying divinations and saying the Lord saith when he never spoke to them nor from stealing the word into their mouth and saying heare the word of the Lord when they never heard his voyce neither turns the wicked ones from their wickedness nor the proud ones from their pride nor the ungodly from their ungodliness nor the prophane from their prophaneness but are stil prophane themselves and stil proud and covetous and stil shelter themselves under the powers of the earth as their fore-fathers the false Prophets alwayes did and stil runs when the Lord never sends them but ordained and set up and upheld by the wil of man therefore they profit not the people at all but only hath gotten a higher notion to feed the notionists withall and so makes more Pharises hypocrites and whited walls and they are more whited over themselves to deceive the world but the pure light is so broken forth that they cannot hide themselves and many sees the deceit of the Priests and their folly is a manifesting even to all so that none need to be deceived by them but the wilful obstinate and blind who love to have it so who love darkness rather than light which is their condemnation the light which reproves them for their evill deeds and therefore they hate it for every one that doth evil hates the light and this is his condemnation and no ignorance here is to be pleaded and these are they that uphold the Priests and the Pharises but all who have desires to see may see and now here is the Priests or the ministers so called of England laid open with the church of England with their form profession and outside worship with their ground and originall and sandy foundation and to be within differing from the Heathen but in name and form and profession therefore down it must though the powers of the earth hath long upheld them more than any other sect so that they have continued so long as they do not a little boast of and thereby say they are of God but let the Magistrate look to his office and let the minister alone with his office and then you shall see the professed ministers of England to be the weakest of all sects and forms but Antichrist hath had his limited time to raigne over the earth but now the King of righteousness is risen with a sword in his hand and by his mighty arm he wil overturn overturn all until it come into his hand Psal 149.8 whose own it is and he wil bind the Kings in chains and the Nobles in fetters of iron and he wil brake the powers of the earth assunder and all who oppose him Rev. 19.20 and the Beast and false Prophet shall
not obey nor believe and thus the devill imitated and opposed the truth but Aarons Rods swallowed up their Rods so that it was manifest that he that was with them was greater than he that was in the world And also when Israel had sinned against God and done that which is evill in the sight of God the Lord God sent forth his Prophets and Messengers to declare the word of the Lord amongst them against sin and evill Ier. 20.9 pride deceit and oppression and all ungodlines iniquities disobedience and rebellion and they had Visions and Revelations and the word of God dwelt in them by which they was led guided and acted Satan he also wrought in his Instruments Ier. 23. with a spirit of delusion and he sent forth his Prophets with their visions and lying divinations and false dreams Ier. 5.30 31. and they cryed peace where the true Prophets cryed wo and the people hearkned unto them and set them up and the Prophets prohesied falsly and the Priests bore rule by their means and the people loved to have it so but what wil ye do in the end thereof saith the Lord by the mouth of his Prophet Ieremiah who declared against it freely and said it was a horrible filthy thing and he was persecuted and the true Prophets who dwelt in the Light and in the power of God they saw them to be such as run Ier. 23.21 22 32. ver 30. Ier. 14. and the Lord never sent them and therefore they profited not the people at all and they stole the word from the r neighbor and they spoke a divination of their own brain and not from the mouth of the Lord and say the Lord said when he never spoke to them and they were light and vain and daubed the people up with untempered morter and sewed pillows under their arm-holes Ezek. 22.28 Ezek. 13.18 Ier. 20.9 Ieremiah 23. and healed the people slightly crying peace peace where there was no peace but they turned them not from their evil wayes nor from their evil doings and the Lord was against them and the true Prophets of God who dwelt in the Light they saw them and plainly and freely declared against them then whether they would hear or forbear and told them they built up Sion with blood and Ierusalem with iniquity and the heads judged for rewards Mich. 3. and the Priests preached for hire and the Prophets divined for money and yet said the Prophet wil they leane upon the Lord and say is not the Lord amongst us as that none evill can come upon us and they saw them to be such as seeked for the fleeces and regarded not the flock Ezek. 34. but fed with the fat and cloathed with the wool and made a prey upon the sheep but the Prophets of the Lord did not spare them but freely and publikely declared against them and they was persecuted and imprisoned and destroyed by those who upheld and sided with the false Prophets Priests hirelings and deceivers and they had then a way of worship unto God with their new moons with their sabboths with their calling of Assemblies and Prayers and sacrifices and Burnt-offerings which was once prescribed by God unto Israel but when their hearts was gone from him so that they walked not uprightly before the Lord then said he who hath required these things at your hands to tread my Courts Isa 29.13 bring no more vain oblations incense is abomination unto me the new-Moons and sabboths the calling of assemblies I cannot away with it is iniquity even the solemn meetings your new-moons and your appointed Feasts my soul hateth and when you spread forth your hands I will hide mine eyes when you make many Prayers I will not hearken your hands are full of blood wash you make you clean cease to do evil learn to do wel seek judgment relieve the oppressed judg the fatherless plead for the widdow Isa 1. chap. and saith the Lord is it such a fast that I have chosen a day for a man to afflict his soul to hang down the head like a bulrush and to spread sackcloath and ashes under him wilt thou call this a fast and an acceptable day to the Lord is it not this the fast which I have chosen to break the bands of wickedness to undo the heavy burdens and to let the oppressed go free and that you break every yoak Is it not to deale thy bread to the hungry and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house when thou seest the naked that thou cover him and that thou hide not thy self from thine own flesh Isa 8.5 6 7. but this they did not do therefore said the Lord these people draw near me with their mouths Isa 13.26 and honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me and thus the Devill deceived them and blinded their eyes in that age with a profession and form of worship but their hearts he kept to himself and this the Prophets saw in the light and testified and declared against it and left it behind them upon record and when the time came that Christ was born the Pharises and Scribes and chiefe Priests had the Letter the writings of Moses and the Prophets and they could tel by them where Christ should be born and when Herod had assembled them together he demanded of them where Christ should be born they said in Bethlehem of Iudah Mat. 2. for thus it is written by the Prophets c. so the Priests and Pharises then was the keepers of the Letter and they had the types and the shadows and figures of Christ the substance and there they had a life and thought in them to find eternal life but would not come unto Christ that they might have life but despised him Iohn 5.19.40 and would not believe on him because he came not in the wisdome nor in the pomp nor glory of the world but testified against it and they was gotten up into Moses chaire but not into Moses life for they tythed Mint and Annis and Commin but omitted the weightier things of the Law Iudgment Mercy and faith which they ought to have done and not to have left the other undone for that was a time when Tythes was due Mat. 23.2 ver 23. for the Aaronicall and Leviticall Priesthood to which Tythes did belong was not yet changed until Christ was offered up and they was faire sayers who said and did not and the hypocrites who was hopt above the Light and so was the blind leaders of the blind with their faire sayings and therefore said Christ beware of the leaven of the Pharises Mat. 25.14 Mat. 16.6 Mat. 23.13 and they turned people from the Light and denyed the Light and so shut up the Kingdome of Heaven against men and would neither enter in themselves nor suffer others that would but had gotten a wisdome and righteousness of their own
not Babel yea or nay These things I do not ask because I know them not but that the Truth may be made manifest and the deceit laid open therefore answer by plain Scripture or else all you formalists imitators and selfe-actors bow unto the truth and be silent and let your mouths be stopped and thereby confess and yeild your selves in an error and to have gotten the form without the life and power that the simple may no longer be deceived by you taking the shaddow for the substance Read this openly in your Church that all may hear and answer for themselves from him who by one of you was called a deceiver yet true who according to the world am called Iames Parnel A Copy of most of these Quaeries was sent to the chiefe Teacher of the baptised people in Fenstanten and after a certain time these words they sent me back again as followeth A few words to him that saith that according to the world he is called JAMES PARNELL We have received your Paper and according to your desire read it in the Congregation unto which you desire our answer by plain Scripture to which we reply that when you make good your affirmation that you are no deceiver but true by plain Scripture then shall we return you a further answer to your queries From them who desire to serve the Lord Jesus Christ Iohn Denne Edmund Male. Then after I had received this Libel I returned them this answer at the bottome of their own paper An. This is plain Scripture though as a deceiver yet true and if my life and conversation doth not prove the same and make good my affirmation then in your answer to my queries you might have taxed me and proved to the contrary but this of you is but a plain shufle to blind the world and shun the shame and still to blind the people who are enslaved under your deceit but this wil the more manifest your ignoranre then not long after they returned me this answer as followeth It is not plain Scripture though as a deceiver yet true as deceivers and yet true is plain Scripture the greatest deceiver in the world might as wel brought it to prove himself no deceiver but true as wel as you for your conversation we know it not we have not to say to that but this we know that wolves may come in sheeps cloathing and this doth appear in you in drawing people from the truth as namely from Water-baptisme which is a command of the Lord unto believers as for your saying we might have taxed you in our answer to your queries we think you might plainly see your folly in this you affirmed nothing in them as your judgment how should we then tax you and prove the contrary and again we made no promise to answer and therefore you might have spared your daring and false words to say the people are enslaved under our deceit and therefore until you have made good what you have taken in hand by plain Scripture by the fruit of your lips by bringing the Doctrine of Christ and owning his Commandments we say untill then we are exhorted to let you alone let them alone they be blind leaders of the blind you having been so plainly manifest unto us Rep. Here all people who with a single eye reads may see the deceit of this people for I spoke but of one and therefore in that respect it is plain Scripture though as v deceiver yet true but these are they who if they could would make a make a man an offender for a word Isa 29.21 my conversation they cannot touch and yet are not ashamed to say the greatest deceiver might as wel have brought this Scripture as I and this is the blindness of their mindes and also say because I deny water-baptisme to be an Ordinance or a Command of Christ that I am a woolf in sheeps cloathing which they do affirm to be a command but cannot prove it and so are such as use their tongues and say the Lord saith when he never spoke to them but surely a woolf in sheeps cloathing is to be known by the life and practise but in this they are blind and cannot discern and so themselves are the blind leaders of the blind but I shall not let you alone but make you manifest unto the world neither did Christ let them alone but pronounced woes and declared against them and here I am sure you might see your folly who say I have been so manifest unto you and said you know not my conversation what a confusion is this but it is your mothers language and also in expecting me to affirm my judgment upon my own queries then what need I send them to you to answe if I answer them my self and here I am sure you might see your own folly for it is here plainly plainly laid open so that all who are led by you are plainly seen to be enslaved under your deceit and these words shall stand for truth against you which you call false who are the blind and so put evill for good and good for evil and the Doctrine of Christ I have brought and his commandments I do own from and against you who are the busie-bodies and selfe-actors who have nought to do with him nor his commands therefore silence deceivers for here I have made good what I have taken in hand which witnessed shall be in your condemnation The occation of another meeting betwixt the people called Baptists and the people called Quakers SEverall times when I have come to the Town of Cambridge I have heard a rumour of a boasting and daring that sprung from the people called Baptists behind my back concerning a dispute with me yet I had received nothing from them neither by word nor writing to be certain of their mindes therefore I being in the Town sent them word that I heard a voyce of such a thing but knew not the certainty therefore to let me know their mindes in writing if they intended such a thing so then one Hindes a Tanner in Cambridge sent me this Note as followeth which Ioseph Doughty had sent unto him The Note Brother Hind as touching a Discourse with James Parnel I shall be willing to do God and men service in it to my power given to me Frst Provided that it be somewhat publike the questions in controversie may be stated in writing 2. That the questions may be such as may be resolved and answered according to Scripture 3. That the questions agreed upon may be delivered into the disputants hands three dayes before the day of dispute 4 That to avoid confusion in multitude of words a short form of Argument shall be used on both parts 5. That some shall be chosen on both sides to see order on both sides observed in discourse and competent Judges also appointed 6. That censorious rash terms of judging shall not be used 7. That the disputants shal declare before