Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n
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The trew report of the dysputacyon had [and] bego[n]ne in the conuocacyo[n] hows at london among the clargye there assembled the xviij. daye of October in the yeare of our lord M.D.LIIII.
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Philpot, John, 1516-1555.
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STC 19890; ESTC S114649
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