Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	apostle_n	church_n	err_v	1,649	5	9.6490	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A82508	A defence of sundry positions, and Scriptures alledged to justifie the Congregationall-way; charged at first to be weak therein, impertinent, and unsufficient; by R.H. M. A. of Magd. Col. Cambr. in his examination of them; but upon further examination, cleerly manifested to be sufficient, pertinent, and full of power. / By [brace] Samuel Eaton, teacher, and Timothy Taylor, pastor [brace] of [brace] the church in Duckenfield, in Cheshire. Published according to order.	Eaton, Samuel, 1596?-1665.; Taylor, Timothy, 1611 or 12-1681.	1645 (1645)	Wing E118; Thomason E308_27; ESTC R200391	116,862	145

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v rather_o to_o give_v then_o to_o gather_v saffrage_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v imply_v the_o election_n of_o more_o church_n than_o one_o and_o yet_o it_o import_v the_o election_n of_o no_o more_o church_n than_o those_o there_o speak_v of_o so_o the_o phrase_n paul_n and_o barnabas_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o imply_v that_o any_o church_n or_o other_o person_n beside_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v elect_v these_o presbyter_n 1._o we_o do_v not_o affirm_v that_o the_o people_n do_v it_o without_o the_o apostle_n reply_n for_o we_o conceive_v the_o apostle_n guide_v they_o as_o at_o other_o time_n they_o have_v do_v other_o church_n 2._o concern_v their_o stay_n from_o election_n and_o ordination_n we_o read_v not_o of_o it_o and_o therefore_o dare_v conclude_v nothing_o about_o it_o concern_v their_o advise_v we_o grant_v it_o but_o what_o other_o assistance_n they_o assord_v we_o understand_v not_o unless_o it_o be_v 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