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A15093 The way to the true church wherein the principall motiues perswading according to Romanisme and questions touching the nature and authoritie of the church and scriptures, are familiarly disputed, and driuen to their issues, where, this day they sticke betweene the Papists and vs: contriued into an answer to a popish discourse concerning the rule of faith and the marks of the church. And published to admonish such as decline to papistrie of the weake and vncertaine grounds, whereupon they haue ventured their soules. Directed to all that seeke for resolution: and especially to his louing countrimen of Lancashire. By Iohn White minister of Gods word at Eccles. For the finding out of the matter and questions handled, there are three tables: two in the beginning, and one in the end of the booke. White, John, 1570-1615. 1608 (1608) STC 25394; ESTC S101725 487,534 518

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aeternam_fw-la vitam_fw-la nemo_fw-la pervenit_fw-la nisi_fw-la qui_fw-la habet_fw-la caput_fw-la christum_n habere_fw-la autem_fw-la caput_fw-la christum_n nemo_fw-la poterit_fw-la nisi_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o eius_fw-la corpore_fw-la fuerit_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccl_n c._n 16._o neither_o can_v any_o man_n be_v make_v the_o child_n of_o god_n except_o first_o he_o be_v conceive_v in_o the_o womb_n of_o the_o church_n but_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o visible_a or_o know_v to_o all_o sort_n of_o man_n because_o visiblenesse_n and_o invisiblenesse_n be_v but_o difference_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n outward_a state_n here_o upon_o earth_n and_o the_o elect_n may_v partake_v her_o ministry_n in_o either_o of_o these_o estate_n that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o may_v be_v effectual_o join_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n though_o it_o do_v not_o visible_o appear_v in_o outward_a show_n by_o the_o 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8.12_o send_v amos_n 8.12_o a_o famine_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o they_o shall_v wander_v from_o sea_n to_o sea_n and_o from_o the_o north_n to_o the_o east_n they_o shall_v run_v to_o and_o fro_o to_o seek_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o shall_v not_o find_v it_o and_o sometime_o 1.20_o sometime_o apoca._n 2.5_o compare_v with_o 1.20_o take_v away_o the_o candlestick_n which_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n as_o i_o have_v touch_v 2._o touch_v §_o 3._o nu_fw-la 2._o before_o all_o which_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v true_a that_o god_n will_v have_v all_o man_n save_v and_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n this_o i_o say_v be_v true_a not_o universal_o in_o every_o sense_n but_o as_o the_o apostle_n mean_v it_o who_o sense_n be_v declare_v by_o 14_o by_o enchir._n c._n 103._o &_o count_n julian._n l._n 4._o c_o 8._o &_o de_fw-la praedest_fw-la sanct_n c._n 8._o &_o the_o corrept_v &_o great_a c._n 14_o austin_n thus_o no_o man_n be_v save_v 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