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A40046 An humble remonstrance from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and the army under his command concerning the present state of affairs in relation to themselves and the kingdom, with their desires and present resolutions thereupon : presented to the commissioners at S. Albans, to be by them humbly represented to the Parliament : also the names of the officers that were present at the Councel of War at the making of the said remonstrance : together with a proclamation of the strict discipline of the Army. England and Wales. Army.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671. 1647 (1647) Wing F165; ESTC R19641 11,276 18

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