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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A40046	An humble remonstrance from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and the army under his command concerning the present state of affairs in relation to themselves and the kingdom, with their desires and present resolutions thereupon : presented to the commissioners at S. Albans, to be by them humbly represented to the Parliament : also the names of the officers that were present at the Councel of War at the making of the said remonstrance : together with a proclamation of the strict discipline of the Army.	England and Wales. Army.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671.	1647 (1647)	Wing F165; ESTC R19641	11,276	18

An humble REMONSTRANCE FROM His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and the ARMY under his Command Concerning the present state of Affairs in relation to themselves and the Kingdom with their Desires and present Resolutions thereupon Presented to the Commissioners at S. Albans to be by them humbly represented to the Parliament ALSO The Names of the Officers that were present at the Councel of War at the making of the said REMONSTRANCE Together with A PROCLAMATION OF The strict Discipline of the Army PRinted and published by the appointment of his Excellency Sir Tho Fairfax and the Councel of War S. Albans June 23. 1647. Signed by me JOHN RUSHWORTH London Printed for Francis Coles IUNE 25. 1647. AN HUMBLE REMONSTRANCE From His EXCELLENCY Sir Thomas Fairfax and the Army under his Command Concerning the present state of affairs in relation to themselves and the kingdom with their Desires and present Resolutions thereupon Presented to the Commissioners at St. Albans to be by them humbly represented to the Parliament OUr Desires as Soldiers in behalf of our selves and other Soldiers that have faithfully served the Parliament in this Kingdom as also our remaining Dis-satisfactions in relation thereunto may be clearly collected out of our several Papers that have been formerly presented to the Parliament concerning the same to which particulars we have not yet received any farther satisfaction In our last Representation it may appear what our Desires are as members of the Commonwealth in behalf of our selves and all others for the clearing setling and securing of the Rights Liberties and Peace of the Kingdom for the justness reasonableness necessity and common concernment whereof unto all we dare appeal to the whole Kingdom and the world yet we have hitherto received no answer thereunto nor can hear of no consideration taken thereupon to put the things contained therein into any way of resolution or dispatch We have since that in pursuance of the first and second heads of our desires in the said representation delivered in a Charge against divers persons Members of the House of Commons for divers Designs and Practices to the abuse and dishonor of the Parliament the insufferable injury of the Army the infringement of the Rights and Liberties both of Soldiers and Subjects the breach or hazard of the Peace of this Kingdom and the hindring of the relief of Ireland c. Upon which though the main things charged with the mischievous Designs and further dangerous consequences of them as also the constant and continued activity of all or most of the persons charged in relation to those things be for the most part sufficiently and notoriously known especially to the Parliament it self yet we finde neither any thing done upon what is so known nor any way resolved on or admitted by the Parliament for the examination of discovery of what is less evident unto them But rather as if neither the things charged nor the present sad effects nor future ill consequences thereof were at all considerable the whole business seems to be slighted past over or set aside Lastly We did with these deliver in another Paper whereof here is a Copy annexed containing divers just and necessary things which we did desire might be provided for and done for the better proceeding in the Premises with more safety to our selves and the Kingdom and with more assurance or hopes of a timely and happy issue To which things desired which we think all men will judge reasonable just and necessary we have yet received no answer or resolution nor can finde any consideration at all had of them save that a moneths pay is sent down for the Army whilest those that have deserted the Army receive at London much more and that some Votes have been passed for annulling the Orders of the Committee pretended for Safety about listing of men and drawing forces together which Votes we finde rendred but vain and illusive by the continued under-hand practices of those whom we have charged and their accomplices in Listing and engaging men for a new War and by a later days Votes not admitting that the Forces so Listed or engaged should by publique Order be dismiss'd or discharged which with other things we cannot but attribute chiefly to the prevalent influence of the same persons Now whereas we finde that our first Desire in the Paper last montioned for present suspending the persons impeached from sitting in the House is judged by some to be against the course and Priviledge of Parliament or of ill consequence in the president of it The Charge being but general and no partitular proof as yet produced to render the proceeding Legal we cannot but reminde the Parliament 1. That as the most and many things charged with the sad effects and consequences of them so the constant and continued activity of all or most of the persons charged in relation thereunto in mis-informing delading abusing or surprising the House and otherwise are sufficiently known to the Parliament it self so as the House might upon their past and present Cognizance of the same most justly proceed to suspend them as in many other cases upon far less occasions which never could have produced such sad effects to the Kingdom they have done many other of their Members meerly for words spoken or things moved in the House alleaged to be but against Order or Custom of the House and this without any Tryal Proof or Charge but meerly upon the Houses own Cogninance of the things as we could instance in many cases since the Parliament began 2. Whereas many of the things to which the Charge relates are things spoke moved or done in the House so as we have yet no clear way opened particularly to charge or mention them or to produce Proofs to them without some pretence against us of breach of Priviledge and therefore though we think no Priviledge ought to protect evil men in doing wrong to particulars or mischie● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Publique yet we have been hitherto so tender of Parliament Priviledges as that we have onely Remonstrated the evil of such things done and supposing the House to have been as we did and do believe and if way were open without breach of Priviledge should not doubt to prove it was some ways mis-informed deluded surprised or otherwise abused in those things by evil Members we have frequently in former Papers before the Charge put the Parliament upon it who without colour of breach of Priviledge might do it to finde out and discover who they were that had so abused them and to dis-ingage the honor of Parliament from the evil practices and Designs of such Incendiaries Now since the same difficulties or prejudices lie yet in our way as to the particular charging or proof of those things against the Members and the Parliament though so often put upon it in our former Papers yet through the powerful interest of the persons guilty hath not taken any cognizance what Members or others have so abused them to