Selected quad for the lemma: state_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
state_n	church_n	member_n	visible_a	2,963	5	9.4470	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A49587	A discourse of paying of tithes by T.L. ... ; together with an appendix ...	Larkham, Thomas, 1602-1669.	1656 (1656)	Wing L441A; ESTC R41027	20,618	58

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