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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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expression_n import_v not_o the_o advocation_n of_o word_n or_o plead_n but_o of_o deed_n and_o act_v the_o father_n set_v the_o one_o woman_n against_o the_o other_o the_o great_a good_a that_o come_v by_o one_o against_o the_o great_a evil_n that_o be_v cause_v by_o the_o other_o 3._o gen._n 3._o as_o the_o scripture_n set_v the_o woman_n seed_n against_o the_o effect_n of_o the_o woman_n transgression_n the_o meaning_n of_o irenaeus_n in_o call_v the_o bless_a virgin_n eve_n advocate_n be_v that_o she_o be_v a_o instrument_n or_o mean_n in_o bring_v forth_o the_o saviour_n of_o mankind_n the_o only_a mediator_n between_o god_n &_o man._n st._n liberaret_fw-la st._n ambr._n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la theodosii_fw-la foeminam_fw-la visitavit_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o maria._n visitata_fw-la est_fw-la maria_n ut_fw-la evam_n liberaret_fw-la ambrose_n may_v explain_v that_o speech_n of_o irenaeus_n by_o what_o he_o say_v to_o like_a purpose_n but_o more_o clear_o christ_n say_v he_o visit_v the_o woman_n in_o mary_n mary_n be_v visit_v that_o she_o may_v free_v eve_n what_o they_o have_v out_o of_o the_o true_a origen_n speak_v only_o that_o the_o saint_n do_v or_o may_v pray_v for_o we_o which_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o as_o for_o invocation_n we_o shall_v presen_o see_v he_o declare_v against_o it_o extendible_a the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n depart_v for_o the_o live_n how_o far_o extendible_a such_o testimony_n as_o imply_v the_o saint_n intercede_v or_o entreat_v for_o we_o be_v frequent_a among_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o not_o only_o in_o general_n but_o in_o particular_a for_o those_o they_o know_v here_o both_o for_o their_o particular_a person_n &_o for_o their_o particular_a necessity_n or_o infirmity_n know_v to_o they_o before_o they_o go_v from_o hence_o for_o as_o they_o lose_v not_o their_o memory_n so_o they_o increase_v their_o charity_n by_o go_v to_o god_n thus_o 〈◊〉_d thus_o ignat._n ep._n ad_fw-la trallens_n salutat_fw-la vos_fw-la 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receive_v you_o such_o say_n as_o these_o that_o avouch_v the_o saint_n pray_v for_o they_o they_o know_v and_o in_o general_a for_o all_o the_o church_n be_v often_o shuffle_v in_o by_o the_o romanist_n as_o good_a proof_n of_o invocation_n and_o sufficient_a to_o take_v the_o unwary_a that_o discern_v not_o the_o paralogism_n or_o inconsequent_a reason_v from_o such_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v to_o infer_v they_o be_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v invocate_v by_o the_o live_n that_o which_o they_o bring_v out_o of_o athanasius_n as_o a_o testimony_n of_o primer_n antiquity_n for_o invocate_a of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr sanctiss_n deipara_n of_o the_o most_o holy_a mother_n of_o god_n not_o write_v by_o that_o holy_a father_n but_o by_o a_o much_o late_a and_o unlearned_a author_n and_o so_o reject_v of_o baronius_n with_o scorn_n but_o see_v the_o other_o athanasius_n other_o bell._n the_o script_n eccles_n do_fw-mi athanasius_n 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ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la qui_fw-la fecit_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la invocans_fw-la that_o the_o church_n do_v do_v any_o thing_n he_o speak_v of_o miraculous_a cure_n do_v then_o by_o invocation_n of_o angel_n nor_o by_o incantation_n but_o pure_o and_o manifest_o direct_v prayer_n to_o the_o lord_n that_o make_v all_o and_o invocate_a the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n fevardentius_n his_o gloss_n here_o will_v not_o help_v say_v the_o father_n mean_v invocation_n of_o such_o evil_a spirit_n as_o the_o former_a heretic_n use_v for_o if_o the_o church_n have_v use_v to_o the_o work_n of_o those_o cure_n the_o invocation_n of_o good_a angel_n the_o same_o father_n can_v not_o have_v condemn_v their_o invocation_n and_o so_o absolute_o deny_v without_o any_o mention_n or_o limitation_n of_o such_o use_n in_o the_o church_n all_o angelical_a invocation_n can_v not_o have_v bind_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o see_v 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the_o benesit_fw-la of_o his_o soul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d corrupt_a and_o lose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o of_o who_o he_o say_v hom._n 32._o in_o mat._n if_o god_n have_v see_v he_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v he_o off_o before_o his_o repentance_n such_o as_o these_o the_o romanist_n will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o go_v to_o purgatory_n but_o to_o hell_n yet_o of_o these_o he_o say_v let_v we_o mourn_v for_o such_o a_o one_o but_o that_o avail_v not_o let_v we_o help_v he_o as_o we_o can_v how_o be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o prayer_n and_o alm_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v which_o may_v bring_v some_o comfort_n and_o ease_v to_o he_o to_o this_o tenor_n he_o speak_v in_o all_o the_o place_n above_o cite_v but_o especial_o in_o hom._n 21._o upon_o the_o act_n shall_v we_o not_o try_v say_v he_o of_o one_o that_o live_v to_o himself_o and_o the_o devil_n to_o rescue_v he_o from_o the_o danger_n and_o evil_n he_o be_v encompass_v with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o there_o be_v a_o way_n if_o we_o will_v to_o make_v his_o punishment_n light_a and_o this_o by_o make_v prayer_n for_o he_o and_o almsdeed_n and_o these_o say_v he_o so_o much_o the_o more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o more_o sin_n and_o this_o he_o take_v to_o be_v doctrine_n suitable_a to_o the_o love_a kindness_n of_o god_n towards_o man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o then_o a_o little_a after_o he_o add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o we_o be_v not_o virtuous_a ourselves_o yet_o let_v we_o get_v friend_n that_o will_v do_v this_o for_o we_o when_o we_o be_v go_v then_o present_o follow_v 〈◊〉_d follow_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d oblation_n be_v not_o in_o vain_a nor_o supplication_n nor_o almsdeed_n all_o these_o thing_n the_o spirit_n have_v ordain_v willing_a or_o command_v that_o we_o shall_v help_v one_o another_o then_o he_o mention_n the_o offer_v of_o the_o eucharist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o the_o minister_n simple_o or_o only_o that_o pray_v so_o for_o those_o that_o be_v fall_v asleep_a in_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o he_o only_o that_o send_v forth_o that_o voice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o spirit_n he_o indeed_o hold_v the_o offer_v or_o sacrifice_n in_o his_o hand_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o go_v on_o express_v the_o honour_n to_o be_v then_o remember_v and_o the_o power_n and_o efficacy_n of_o christ_n death_n then_o represent_v where_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o this_o say_n of_o he_o the_o spirit_n have_v ordain_v all_o these_o thing_n which_o the_o romanist_n do_v much_o urge_v as_o if_o their_o prayer_n and_o offering_n for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v by_o a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n relate_v to_o the_o help_n of_o one_o another_o by_o prayer_n oblation_n and_o almsdeed_n which_o in_o general_n be_v true_a so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v capable_a to_o be_v help_v by_o they_o but_o if_o it_o be_v particular_o apply_v to_o the_o help_a of_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o it_o make_v nothing_o for_o the_o romanist_n for_o they_o will_v not_o allow_v that_o the_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n of_o the_o live_n do_v avail_n or_o help_v such_o as_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n but_o if_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o prayer_n and_o offering_n in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o he_o seem_v here_o to_o intend_v it_o it_o make_v nothing_o still_o for_o they_o or_o against_o we_o for_o we_o allow_v that_o ancient_a practice_n of_o remember_v there_o and_o pray_v as_o they_o do_v for_o those_o that_o sleep_n in_o christ_n the_o intent_n and_o purpose_n of_o those_o prayer_n he_o express_v in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o speech_n that_o they_o and_o we_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v obtain_v the_o good_a thing_n promise_v through_o the_o grace_n and_o merciful_a love_a kindness_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n a_o place_n parallel_n to_o the_o former_a he_o have_v in_o his_o third_n hom._n on_o the_o epist_n to_o the_o philip._n where_o speak_v of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o dead_a these_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o phil._n hom_n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o be_v not_o in_o vain_a ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o a_o remembrance_n be_v make_v of_o those_o that_o be_v dead_a in_o the_o most_o reverend_a and_o holy_a mystery_n for_o when_o all_o the_o people_n stand_v and_o the_o company_n of_o priest_n with_o their_o hand_n stretch_v out_o towards_o heaven_n and_o the_o great_a sacrifice_n lie_v
before_o they_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o they_o move_v and_o make_v god_n propitious_a while_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v here_o again_o the_o romanist_n triumph_n as_o if_o st._n chrysost_o make_v their_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o he_o plain_o restrain_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o above_o he_o do_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o that_o concern_v only_o they_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n nothing_o of_o soul_n in_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n or_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o prayer_n for_o such_o sinner_n as_o he_o describe_v in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a place_n such_o as_o be_v go_v to_o endless_a pain_n yet_o may_v receive_v as_o he_o think_v a_o little_a case_n thereby_o we_o must_v reckon_v it_o as_o a_o private_a opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n ●atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n neither_o agreeable_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n remember_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o offering_n only_o those_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o those_o prayer_n may_v appear_v nor_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o purgatory_n which_o suppose_v the_o person_n reconcile_v and_o justify_v before_o he_o come_v there_o but_o if_o the_o sinner_n which_o cyril_n here_o say_v be_v pray_v for_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o remiss_a sense_n for_o such_o as_o the_o romish_a church_n send_v to_o purgatory_n then_o the_o pray_v for_o they_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o say_v above_o to_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n that_o such_o prayer_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o passage_n of_o such_o soul_n and_o their_o appear_v in_o judgement_n not_o to_o their_o be_v in_o pain_n after_o death_n for_o that_o such_o person_n must_v appear_v in_o judgement_n the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o undergo_v a_o scrutiny_n or_o examination_n and_o have_v as_o it_o be_v their_o hay_n and_o stubble_n burn_v up_o be_v a_o catholic_n truth_n but_o that_o person_n reconcile_v to_o god_n die_v and_o rest_v in_o christ_n shall_v present_o go_v to_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v no_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o refer_v unto_o such_o person_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o the_o undoubted_a cyril_n for_o those_o mystagogical_a catechism_n be_v think_v to_o be_v compose_v by_o john_n b._n 15._o cyril_n catech_n 15._o of_o jerusalem_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n when_o he_o come_v to_o judgement_n shall_v draw_v after_o he_o a_o 'slud_o of_o try_v fire_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o shall_v burn_v up_o all_o hay_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o action_n so_o that_o if_o such_o sinner_n be_v pray_v for_o it_o must_v be_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o fire_n of_o trial_n and_o examination_n which_o they_o be_v to_o undergo_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o according_a to_o the_o true_a cyril_n thus_o much_o for_o that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v a_o belief_n of_o purgatory_n but_o be_v use_v upon_o other_o reason_n the_o three_o general_a head_n be_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n come_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n or_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v out_o of_o which_o the_o romanist_n will_v conclude_v a_o purgatory_n the_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v our_o saviour_n speech_n mat._n 12.32_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v he_o neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v here_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o make_v good_a three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o world_n to_o come_v signify_v the_o time_n beginning_n at_o every_o man_n death_n 2._o that_o from_o our_o saviour_n negative_a nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v this_o affirmative_a follow_v therefore_o there_o be_v some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 3._o that_o if_o some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v then_o to_o they_o to_o who_o they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o remain_v pain_n and_o torment_v to_o be_v suffer_v i._o for_o the_o time_n come_v of_o the_o world_n to_o come_v the_o world_n to_o come_v be_v not_o where_o put_v for_o the_o time_n between_o every_o man_n death_n and_o the_o resurrection_n for_o so_o it_o will_v be_v present_a to_o some_o and_o future_a to_o other_o but_o be_v every_o where_o seculum_fw-la futurum_fw-la which_o be_v so_o to_o every_o one_o whether_o it_o be_v take_v according_a to_o the_o jewish_a acception_n or_o the_o christian_n with_o the_o jew_n the_o world_n to_o come_v do_v sometime_o signify_v the_o time_n of_o their_o expect_a