Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	gospel_n	law_n	life_n	7,267	5	5.2543	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10609	A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name.	1590 (1590)	STC 20881; ESTC S115774	171,783	224

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remonstrance_n remonstrance_n they_o have_v be_v careful_a indeed_o to_o discharge_v that_o charge_n that_o their_o provincial_a have_v lay_v upon_o they_o to_o trouble_v the_o church_n your_o mayor_n be_v not_o necessary_o true_a for_o a_o man_n may_v be_v careful_a to_o do_v his_o duty_n and_o yet_o by_o preposterous_a zeal_n be_v carry_v to_o heresy_n and_o schism_n the_o 3._o demonstration_n to_o deprive_v god_n people_n of_o spiritual_a comfort_n be_v wickedness_n demonstration_n demonstration_n to_o put_v to_o silence_v such_o minister_n be_v to_o deprive_v ergo_fw-la to_o put_v to_o silence_v such_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n be_v to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o praecision_n now_o as_o of_o the_o concision_n of_o old_a of_o who_o s._n augustine_n speak_v supper_n 34._o psal_n quare_fw-la in_o praecisione_n vultis_fw-la magnificare_fw-la nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la the_o mayor_n here_o be_v as_o the_o other_o next_o afore_o i_o have_v know_v a_o most_o lewd_a wretch_n who_o 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remonstrance_n remonstrance_n nor_o so_o much_o who_o for_o a_o while_o preach_v the_o gospel_n yet_o may_v a_o bad_a man_n cast_v good_a seed_n into_o the_o ground_n do_v as_o they_o say_v not_o as_o they_o do_v say_v christ_n the_o 6._o demonstration_n that_o which_o give_v the_o enemy_n cause_n to_o rejoice_v be_v a_o offence_n to_o displace_v the_o minister_n demonstration_n demonstration_n give_v the_o enemy_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la if_o any_o rejoice_v in_o evil_a let_v they_o answer_v for_o it_o themselves_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o fault_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o bishop_n do_v their_o duty_n to_o displace_v schismatics_n that_o be_v but_o per_fw-la accidens_fw-la that_o it_o be_v to_o the_o rejoice_v of_o the_o enemy_n and_o they_o will_v not_o let_v to_o rejoice_v if_o a_o adulterous_a minister_n also_o be_v displace_v be_v glad_a that_o they_o may_v say_v such_o be_v among_o us._n the_o 7._o demonstration_n that_o which_o cause_v the_o doer_n to_o be_v esteem_v enemy_n to_o the_o gospel_n be_v a_o heinous_a sin_n demonstration_n demonstration_n such_o be_v the_o silence_v of_o those_o ergo_fw-la i_o answer_v with_o that_o sentence_n of_o tully_n non_fw-la est_fw-la tanta_fw-la potest_fw-la as_o in_fw-la stultorum_fw-la suffragijs_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n there_o be_v no_o such_o estimate_n or_o read_v in_o a_o fool_n voice_n or_o suffragie_n they_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o rule_v in_o the_o church_n that_o tender_v more_o what_o the_o ill_a advise_v say_v of_o they_o than_o they_o do_v the_o peace_n of_o christ_n body_n the_o church_n the_o 8._o demonstration_n that_o which_o let_v wickedness_n to_o come_v in_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o sin_n demonstration_n demonstration_n to_o displace_v the_o minister_n do_v so_o ergo_fw-la it_o follow_v not_o upon_o every_o sectary_n minister_v displace_v remonstran_n remonstran_n this_o be_v a_o partial_a syllogism_n and_o in_o favour_n of_o themselves_o no_o sir_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o better_o come_v in_o their_o place_n if_o they_o may_v have_v like_o maintenance_n the_o 9_o demonstration_n that_o which_o interrupt_v the_o course_n of_o the_o gospel_n without_o warrant_n from_o god_n law_n or_o law_n of_o the_o land_n be_v a_o sin_n but_o to_o displace_v be_v so_o ergo_fw-la demonstra_fw-la demonstra_fw-la it_o be_v likely_a this_o man_n have_v be_v convent_v for_o his_o schism_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o turbulencie_n of_o spirit_n and_o will_v not_o be_v interrupt_v without_o a_o warrant_n from_o heaven_n or_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n there_o be_v statute_n law_n and_o canon_n law_n authorize_v by_o statute_n to_o pluck_v up_o such_o brier_n and_o thorn_n of_o these_o malcontent_n out_o from_o amidst_o the_o land_n and_o no_o danger_n to_o interrupt_v thereby_o the_o course_n of_o the_o gospel_n most_o of_o they_o preach_v nothing_o but_o invective_n against_o thing_n establish_v be_v this_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n of_o peace_n the_o seventeenth_o chapter_n assertion_n admonition_n belong_v to_o the_o eldership_n demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n 1_o that_o which_o private_a man_n be_v command_v to_o seek_v unto_o be_v offend_v for_o redress_v of_o the_o offence_n matth._n 18.15_o that_o be_v a_o necessary_a and_o ordinary_a way_n for_o those_o who_o public_o offend_v 2_o that_o which_o be_v more_o available_a to_o repentance_n 3_o that_o which_o make_v man_n more_o afraid_a to_o offend_v 4_o that_o which_o have_v a_o great_a promise_n to_o do_v good_a 5_o that_o without_o which_o all_o duty_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v towards_o sinner_n 6_o that_o which_o bridle_v outrageous_a sin_n but_o such_o be_v the_o admonition_n of_o those_o who_o carry_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n uz._n the_o eldership_n ergo_fw-la admonition_n long_v to_o they_o one_o minor_n serve_v right_a well_o for_o all_o these_o proposition_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o the_o venerable_a 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eldership_n the_o eighteen_o chapter_n assertion_n svspension_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n demonstration_n demonstration_n or_o from_o a_o office_n in_o the_o church_n must_v be_v by_o the_o eldership_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n whatsoever_o be_v enjoin_v as_o a_o duty_n to_o be_v do_v by_o every_o christian_a man_n if_o he_o leave_v it_o undo_v he_o be_v to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n luke_n 14.17.23_o but_o if_o a_o man_n brother_n have_v any_o thing_n against_o he_o matth._n 5.24_o he_o be_v to_o be_v compel_v to_o leave_v his_o gift_n ergo_fw-la separation_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n this_o demonstration_n be_v neither_o compound_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n nor_o simple_a syllogism_n nor_o in_o any_o mood_n and_o figure_n nor_o prove_v the_o assertion_n any_o way_n for_o must_v it_o needs_o follow_v he_o must_v be_v suspend_v ergo_fw-la by_o the_o eldership_n then_o thus_o the_o people_n must_v have_v 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of_o several_a circumstance_n for_o so_o themselves_o in_o their_o new_a plait_a discipline_n be_v force_v to_o distinguish_v and_o confess_v ergo_fw-la co_fw-la their_o synodical_a discipline_n etc._n etc._n be_v no_o good_a way_n the_o 4._o demonstration_n the_o demonstrator_n say_v demonstration_n demonstration_n we_o can_v glorify_v god_n but_o by_o obedience_n to_o his_o word_n but_o in_o all_o we_o do_v we_o must_v glorify_v god_n ergo_fw-la in_o all_o that_o we_o do_v we_o must_v be_v obedient_a to_o his_o word_n and_o consequent_o in_o govern_v of_o his_o church_n the_o syllogism_n and_o prosyllogisme_n prove_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o reprove_v not_o any_o thing_n of_o we_o it_o be_v a_o obedience_n to_o the_o word_n such_o government_n as_o we_o whether_o ordain_v by_o it_o or_o subordinate_a unto_o it_o always_o to_o be_v conformable_a to_o the_o government_n of_o his_o word_n of_o this_o sort_n be_v every_o title_n and_o jot_n of_o our_o liturgy_n and_o communion_n book_n our_o ceremony_n our_o provincial_a constitution_n or_o any_o law_n in_o force_n which_o bind_v we_o to_o the_o subscription_n or_o observation_n of_o the_o book_n have_v home_o again_o this_o slender_a syllogism_n to_o yourself_o you_o can_v disglorifie_v god_n retortion_n retortion_n but_o by_o disobedience_n to_o his_o word_n but_o your_o recusance_n of_o her_o majesty_n lawful_a proceed_n under_o god_n be_v as_o the_o sin_n of_o witchcraft_n &_o be_v disglorify_v of_o god_n ergo_fw-la in_o not_o do_v or_o undo_v her_o majesty_n proceed_n be_v disobedience_n to_o the_o word_n the_o 5._o demonstration_n if_o meat_n and_o drink_n can_v be_v sanctify_v but_o by_o the_o word_n &_o prayer_n demonstration_n demonstration_n much_o less_o any_o thing_n be_v holy_a in_o action_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n that_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o this_o syllogism_n be_v connexive_a remonstrance_n remonstrance_n ill_a favoured_o knit_v together_o the_o sequel_n of_o the_o antecedent_n must_v be_v distinguish_v if_o you_o mean_v beside_o the_o word_n contrary_a or_o repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n no_o man_n will_v deny_v the_o consequence_n of_o the_o first_o and_o then_o all_o this_o thread_n be_v evil_a spin_a it_o make_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n but_o if_o by_o beside_o the_o word_n you_o understand_v all_o comprehend_v under_o the_o general_a precept_n thereof_o you_o must_v begin_v to_o knit_v a_o new_a demonstration_n else_o your_o whole_a discipline_n frame_n fall_v on_o your_o head_n i_o therefore_o retort_v your_o argument_n thus_o if_o every_o creature_n under_o heaven_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d retortion_n retortion_n be_v good_a and_o not_o to_o be_v reject_v because_o it_o be_v sanctify_v by_o prayer_n and_o the_o word_n then_o much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o human_a creature_n or_o ordinance_n which_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n which_o be_v often_o sanctify_a by_o prayer_n and_o the_o word_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o late_a and_o by_o consequence_n every_o deal_n of_o our_o church_n discipline_n &_o policy_n be_v of_o god_n unto_o which_o you_o must_v submit_v or_o else_o be_v rebel_n against_o god_n for_o you_o can_v prove_v it_o repugnant_a to_o god_n word_n the_o 6._o demonstration_n all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v of_o faith_n rom._n 14.23_o v._o demonstration_n demonstration_n all_o lawful_a thing_n of_o faith_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n ergo_fw-la all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n and_o consequent_o every_o lawful_a action_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n that_o you_o make_v be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n whether_o every_o lawful_a action_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n the_o right_a state_n of_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o every_o sere_a and_o singular_a action_n for_o church_n external_a policy_n must_v be_v in_o so_o many_o letter_n express_v or_o immediate_o to_o be_v gather_v of_o the_o word_n you_o may_v not_o pass_v away_o thus_o in_o cloud_n of_o generality_n to_o the_o mayor_n viz._n all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v of_o faith_n demonstrator_n falsification_n of_o the_o text_n by_o the_o demonstrator_n maledicta_fw-la glossa_fw-la quae_fw-la corrumpit_fw-la textum_fw-la you_o corrupt_v the_o text_n the_o text_n be_v all_o that_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n not_o all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v of_o faith_n for_o all_o good_a art_n and_o science_n be_v lawful_a but_o not_o of_o faith_n for_o heathen_n invent_v and_o practise_v most_o of_o they_o the_o mayor_n neither_o be_v true_a in_o the_o allegation_n nor_o in_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o term_n true_a which_o in_o a_o demonstration_n be_v requisite_a for_o all_o faithful_a thing_n be_v lawful_a not_o all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v faithful_a this_o poison_n be_v not_o worth_a a_o counter_a you_o must_v run_v a_o beg_n for_o a_o better_a demonstration_n to_o the_o counterpoysoner_n whence_o this_o be_v borrow_v to_o the_o mayor_n minor_n and_o conclusion_n the_o whole_a syllogism_n be_v faulty_a all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v of_o faith_n all_o lawful_a thing_n of_o faith_n be_v warrant_v in_o the_o word_n ergo_fw-la all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v warrant_v in_o the_o word_n transposition_n of_o term_n make_v no_o syllogism_n in_o direct_a conclude_a mood_n now_o for_o the_o consequencie_n it_o be_v ab_fw-la angulo_fw-la ad_fw-la baculum_fw-la from_o the_o corner_n to_o the_o staff_n all_o lawful_a thing_n of_o faith_n be_v warrantable_a by_o the_o word_n ergo_fw-la all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v warrantable_a by_o the_o word_n the_o demonstrator_n never_o learn_v this_o logic_n ab_fw-la oratione_fw-la secundùm_fw-la quid_fw-la sumpta_fw-la cum_fw-la determinatione_fw-la ad_fw-la orationem_fw-la sumptam_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la sine_fw-la determinatione_fw-la non_fw-la valet_fw-la argumentum_fw-la 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both_o part_n be_v false_a either_o he_o have_v prescribe_v as_o they_o will_v have_v describe_v or_o the_o divine_a majesty_n be_v a_o careless_a god_n o_o careless_a divinity_n when_o both_o part_n of_o a_o dilemma_n or_o disiunctive_a be_v false_a a_o bare_a negative_a may_v serve_v but_o neither_o have_v god_n give_v a_o prescript_n form_n of_o accidental_a or_o external_a government_n as_o themselves_o with_o shame_n enough_o at_o last_o confess_v neither_o be_v he_o at_o any_o time_n a_o careless_a god_n every_o point_n of_o discipline_n be_v not_o disclose_v in_o the_o law_n every_o particular_a case_n incident_a be_v not_o reckon_v there_o the_o lip_n of_o the_o priest_n must_v preserve_v knowledge_n the_o breast_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n keep_v vrim_fw-he and_o thumim_n light_a and_o perfection_n of_o holiness_n and_o knowledge_n when_o a_o hard_a case_n rise_v resort_n must_v be_v to_o the_o high_a priest_n or_o judge_n in_o the_o land_n 8._o rom._n 8._o as_o for_o so_o 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