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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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quantity_n of_o the_o work_n 2._o cor._n 9.6_o four_o the_o reward_n be_v certain_a 109._o and_o infallible_a yea_o more_o certain_a than_o any_o temporal_a benefit_n which_o man_n present_o enjoy_v in_o the_o world_n gen._n 22.16_o five_o there_o be_v in_o all_o good_a work_v a_o dignity_n not_o of_o desert_n or_o equiparance_n either_o in_o respect_n of_o god_n of_o who_o we_o can_v deserve_v nothing_o persoluit_fw-la or_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o reward_n but_o only_o of_o grace_n divine_a similitude_n goodness_n and_o honour_n phil._n 4.8_o six_o the_o reward_n of_o good_a work_n be_v call_v a_o crown_n of_o righteousness_n gratia_fw-la 2._o tim._n 4._o 8._o because_o it_o be_v bestow_v on_o they_o which_o exercise_n righteousness_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o righteousness_n but_o merit_n of_o condignity_n and_o righteousness_n be_v 〈◊〉_d tsting_n as_o appear_v in_o angel_n and_o infant_n which_o have_v righteousness_n and_o be_v crown_v with_o glory_n and_o yet_o they_o 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efficacy_n of_o baptism_n to_o sanctify_v man_n but_o according_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n eph._n 5.26_o tit._n 3.5_o gal._n 3.27.1_o pet._n 3.21_o act_n 22.16_o rom._n 6.3_o and_o the_o ancient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d they_o teach_v and_o maintain_v that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o instrument_n of_o sanctification_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o form_n of_o administration_n of_o baptism_n have_v these_o word_n see_v now_o d._n b._n that_o these_o child_n be_v regenerate_v etc._n etc._n we_o yield_v thou_o hearty_a thanks_n most_o merciful_a father_n that_o it_o have_v please_v thou_o to_o regenerate_v this_o infant_n with_o thy_o holy_a spirit_n to_o receive_v he_o for_o thy_o own_o child_n by_o adoption_n etc._n etc._n and_o master_n hooker_n 174._o say_v baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n which_o god_n have_v institute_v in_o his_o church_n to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o which_o receive_v the_o same_o may_v thereby_o be_v 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idolater_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v they_o not_o prodigious_a monster_n which_o adore_v stock_n and_o stone_n jesuit_fw-la out_o of_o which_o i_o may_v conclude_v that_o christ_n jesus_n be_v a_o true_a man_n his_o image_n have_v a_o most_o evident_a and_o undeniable_a right_n to_o represent_v he_o and_o so_o to_o be_v honour_v for_o his_o sake_n answer_n conclusion_n borrow_v their_o strength_n from_o their_o premise_n but_o the_o former_a premise_n have_v no_o power_n to_o enforce_v this_o conclusion_n for_o although_o christ_n be_v a_o true_a man_n yet_o his_o paint_a image_n want_v evident_a and_o undeniable_a right_n to_o represent_v he_o because_o such_o right_n presuppose_v divine_a institution_n the_o same_o represent_v he_o and_o stand_v for_o he_o only_o by_o humane_a imagination_n which_o be_v all_o the_o adversary_n be_v able_a to_o prove_v but_o religious_a worship_n must_v have_v a_o more_o sound_a and_o certain_a foundation_n otherwise_o we_o must_v say_v to_o 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