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A30904 Truth cleared of calumnies wherein a book intituled, A dialogue betwixt a Quaker and a stable Christian (printed at Aberdeen, and upon good ground judged to be writ by William Mitchell ...) is examined, and the disingenuity of the author, in his representing the Quakers is discovered : here is also their case truly stated, cleared, demonstrated, and the objections of their opposers answered according to truth, Scripture, and right reason / by Robert Barclay. Barclay, Robert, 1648-1690. 1670 (1670) Wing B738; ESTC R22049 63,242 72

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thou_o think_v it_o fair_a deal_n three_o pag._n 52._o thou_o say_v do_v not_o that_o opinion_n tend_v to_o atheism_n which_o render_v mortification_n of_o sin_n even_o in_o this_o life_n useless_a etc._n etc._n answ._n here_o thou_o deal_v disingenuous_o be_v mortification_n of_o sin_n useless_a where_o the_o end_n of_o it_o be_v attain_v and_o be_v not_o perfection_n the_o end_n of_o mortification_n again_o thou_o say_v the_o opinion_n of_o a_o sinless_a perfection_n wound_v the_o very_a vital_n of_o religion_n answ._n who_o can_v have_v expect_v that_o one_o that_o pretend_v to_o religion_n will_v have_v be_v so_o brazen-faced_a as_o to_o put_v such_o a_o expression_n in_o print_n what_o be_v the_o end_n of_o true_a religion_n but_o to_o lead_v out_o of_o sin_n do_v the_o vital_n of_o religion_n consist_v in_o sin_v or_o in_o not_o sin_v if_o it_o consist_v in_o sin_v than_o they_o that_o sin_n most_o be_v most_o religious_a but_o if_o it_o consist_v in_o not_o sin_v and_o keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n without_o sin_n then_o to_o plead_v for_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o attainable_a hurt_v not_o the_o vital_n of_o religion_n what!_o can_v the_o saint_n live_v better_a without_o sin_n then_o with_o it_o yea_o sure_o they_o can_v live_v well_o without_o that_o which_o be_v a_o burden_n and_o as_o death_n unto_o their_o life_n they_o who_o life_n be_v in_o sin_n can_v live_v but_o in_o sin_n but_o the_o saint_n life_n be_v not_o in_o sin_n but_o in_o righteousness_n and_o thy_o consequence_n be_v vain_a and_o foolish_a as_o 1._o that_o man_n need_v not_o pray_v for_o pardon_v of_o sin_n 2._o that_o they_o need_v not_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o cleanse_v they_o from_o sin_n 3._o that_o they_o need_v not_o repentance_n for_o we_o grant_v that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o so_o need_v those_o thing_n by_o which_o they_o may_v attain_v unto_o perfection_n and_o who_o witness_n perfection_n be_v come_v to_o witness_v the_o true_a use_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o as_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n cleanse_v from_o all_o the_o sin_n so_o be_v preserve_v clean_a and_o such_o have_v receive_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n be_v turn_v from_o they_o unto_o righteousness_n which_o be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o repentance_n and_o whereas_o thou_o say_v bring_v i_o to_o the_o particular_a person_n that_o be_v sinless_a and_o i_o shall_v apply_v to_o he_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n 1._o joh._n 1._o 8._o thou_o show_a open_o thy_o confusion_n for_o by_o thy_o apply_v to_o he_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n will_v thou_o infer_v a_o sinless_a man_n to_o be_v a_o sin_v man_n that_o be_v a_o contradiction_n but_o though_o we_o shall_v bring_v a_o man_n to_o