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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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purpose_n to_o collude_v three_o by_o a_o extension_n for_o whereas_o s._n gregory_n say_v justorum_n the_o soul_n of_o just_a man_n he_o render_v the_o speech_n in_o a_o more_o general_a and_o unconfined_a manner_n viz._n the_o soul_n of_o man_n die_v and_o thus_o he_o mangle_v a_o clear_a sentence_n to_o derive_v a_o conclusion_n from_o it_o 121._o many_o such_o trick_n be_v discover_v by_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o l._n plessis_n see_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o trial_n concern_v religion_n in_o france_n it_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o examen_fw-la of_o fox_n his_o calendar-saint_n part._n 1._o a_o cathol_a doctr_n pag._n 121._o contrary_a to_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o author_n there_o and_o his_o doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n 6._o for_o if_o not_o all_o light_a sin_n but_o the_o least_o in_o the_o soul_n of_o iust_o man_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o be_v of_o singular_a sanctity_n and_o not_o general_o of_o man_n die_v in_o state_n 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see_v afterward_o part._n 2._o chap._n 1._o §._o 2._o for_o all_o papist_n be_v of_o this_o opinion_n viz._n that_o no_o sin_n but_o venial_a only_o shall_v be_v expiate_v in_o purgatory_n fire_n second_o the_o imputation_n of_o popery_n fasten_v upon_o he_o from_o who_o we_o englishman_n receive_v our_o first_o instruction_n in_o the_o faith_n this_o be_v a_o good_a motive_n unto_o i_o to_o embrace_v popery_n as_o passionate_a sir_n martin_n luther_n phrase_v the_o catholic_n religion_n who_o i_o may_v more_o just_o call_v a_o foul_a mouth_a dog_n then_o 1._o then_o against_o d._n bishop_n part._n 1._o d._n abbott_n bestow_v this_o homely_a courtesy_n upon_o a_o very_a learned_a w._n learned_a t._n w._n priest_n since_o we_o be_v translate_v immediate_o from_o paganism_n unto_o this_o belief_n by_o the_o wonderful_a and_o gracious_a operation_n of_o almighty_a god_n three_o his_o confession_n of_o s._n gregory_n judgement_n concern_v the_o remission_n of_o some_o sin_n after_o this_o life_n which_o d._n field_n will_v infringe_v as_o you_o see_v by_o misinforce_v his_o testimony_n against_o his_o evident_a purpose_n in_o that_o 39_o that_o lib._n 4._o dial_n 39_o place_n and_o his_o resolution_n elsewhere_o 8._o for_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o penitential_a psalm_n he_o deliver_v in_o each_o in_o psal_n 1._o &_o 3._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o each_o two_o several_a place_n and_o strengthen_v himself_o in_o the_o first_o with_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o he_o there_o express_o name_v that_o some_o man_n pass_v into_o heaven_n by_o the_o fire_n of_o purgation_n and_o be_v expiate_v thereby_o in_o the_o future_a life_n can_v i_o desire_v a_o more_o copious_a satisfaction_n in_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o matter_n or_o can_v i_o wish_v a_o more_o abundant_a redargution_n of_o d._n fields_n falsehood_n in_o traduce_v the_o testament_n of_o the_o dead_a for_o so_o their_o work_n be_v to_o establish_v that_o doctrine_n which_o they_o do_v whole_o disclaim_v 9_o now_o a_o word_n or_o two_o concern_v s._n bernard_n who_o he_o couple_v very_o plausible_o with_o s._n gregory_n as_o you_o may_v see_v to_o infer_v a_o conclusion_n against_o that_o faith_n which_o they_o both_o profess_v i_o turn_v unto_o the_o place_n in_o s._n bernard_n which_o true_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n admit_v such_o a_o interpretation_n as_o m._n doctor_n do_v colourable_o pretend_v for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n bernard_n to_o deny_v that_o god_n do_v at_o any_o time_n inflict_v a_o temporal_a pain_n after_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n because_o this_o position_n be_v extreme_o repugnant_a unto_o scripture_n and_o father_n and_o reason_n as_o i_o shall_v brief_o declare_v 2._o declare_v part._n 2._o chap._n 1._o §._o 2._o afterward_o and_o unto_o the_o very_a condition_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n itself_o wherein_o s._n bernard_n know_v right_a well_o that_o sin_n be_v remit_v and_o yet_o all_o future_a punishment_n be_v not_o thereby_o take_v away_o this_o be_v the_o conform_a doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n in_o his_o time_n and_o who_o be_v so_o mean_o skill_v in_o s._n bernard_n faith_n as_o to_o conceive_v that_o he_o will_v oppugn_v a_o matter_n of_o such_o sublimity_n and_o so_o correspondent_o entertain_v by_o the_o church_n 10._o but_o the_o truth_n be_v this_o s._n bernard_n persuade_v man_n to_o fly_v from_o the_o contagion_n of_o sin_n the_o effect_n whereof_o be_v such_o that_o as_o by_o natural_a death_n it_o sever_v the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n so_o by_o spiritual_a death_n it_o sunder_v god_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o as_o sin_n bring_v forth_o punishment_n so_o the_o cessation_n from_o sin_n prevent_v punishment_n because_o no_o punishment_n do_v follow_v where_o no_o sin_n be_v go_v before_o what_o then_o do_v no_o effect_n of_o sin_n remain_v where_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n be_v remit_v s._n bernard_n sequel_n bernard_n he_o esteem_v death_n itself_o to_o be_v a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n as_o you_o may_v see_v by_o the_o sequel_n deni_v it_o and_o therefore_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o there_o intend_v that_o when_o all_o sin_n shall_v be_v huberti_fw-la be_v prorsus_fw-la d._n field_n himself_o confess_v pag._n 98._o that_o death_n tyrannize_v over_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n serm._n in_o ●bitu_fw-la huberti_fw-la whole_o take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n then_o shall_v no_o effect_n of_o it_o remain_v he_o subnect_v this_o sentence_n in_o his_o sweet_a and_o divine_a manner_n viz._n happy_a be_v our_o expectation_n and_o bless_a be_v our_o hope_n who_o resurrection_n shall_v be_v much_o more_o glorious_a than_o our_o first_o estate_n of_o creation_n before_o our_o fall_n forasmuch_o as_o neither_o sin_n nor_o punishment_n neither_o evil_a nor_o scourdge_n shall_v reign_v or_o dwell_v or_o have_v possibility_n to_o reign_v or_o dwell_v either_o in_o our_o body_n or_o soul_n 11._o to_o conclude_v it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o read_v and_o to_o ponderate_v this_o one_o little_o say_v of_o s._n bernard_n by_o which_o you_o may_v take_v a_o estimate_n of_o his_o judgement_n in_o these_o matter_n my_o brethren_n while_o you_o think_v to_o avoid_v a_o very_a small_a punishment_n in_o this_o world_n you_o incur_v a_o great_a in_o the_o next_o for_o you_o must_v understand_v that_o you_o shall_v pay_v a_o hundred_o fold_n in_o locis_fw-la in_o in_o purgabilibus_fw-la locis_fw-la purgatory_n for_o those_o thing_n which_o you_o neglect_v in_o this_o life_n 12._o i_o know_v most_o kind_a reader_n that_o you_o marvel_v no_o less_o now_o than_o i_o do_v by_o what_o art_n d._n field_n can_v distil_v his_o church_n out_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o these_o worthy_a and_o learned_a man_n or_o how_o their_o authority_n may_v be_v honest_o allege_v to_o prove_v that_o papist_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o faction_n in_o the_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o those_o author_n general_o who_o he_o produce_v in_o his_o glorious_a appendix_n be_v real_o interest_v in_o that_o faction_n and_o enemy_n of_o our_o protestanticall_a church_n wherefore_o i_o do_v now_o sufficient_o understand_v that_o we_o protestant_n assume_v the_o name_n of_o israel_n unto_o ourselves_o and_o impute_v the_o name_n of_o philistines_n unto_o the_o papist_n can_v not_o justify_v our_o affectation_n therein_o by_o any_o better_a resemblance_n than_o this_o viz._n as_o the_o poor_a 13.19.20_o 1._o sam._n 13.19.20_o distress_a israelites_n be_v constrain_v to_o repair_v unto_o the_o philistines_n for_o the_o sharpen_n of_o their_o dull_a tool_n so_o we_o miserable_a protestant_n have_v no_o better_a mean_n be_v enforce_v to_o go_v unto_o the_o papist_n to_o procure_v some_o weapon_n for_o our_o defence_n from_o they_o which_o we_o turn_v ungrateful_o and_o unjust_o against_o their_o own_o bowel_n §._o 2._o s._n augustine_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n 1._o you_o have_v 13._o have_v pag._n 13._o see_v the_o goodly_a pretence_n of_o d._n field_n assure_v you_o that_o the_o protestant_n honour_n and_o reverence_v the_o father_n much_o more_o than_o the_o papist_n do_v which_o venditation_n if_o it_o do_v proceed_v from_o a_o sincere_a heart_n then_o d._n field_n shall_v not_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o his_o inflexion_n and_o corruption_n to_o sustain_v his_o cause_n with_o their_o disgrace_n and_o much_o less_o with_o infame_v the_o great_a of_o they_o all_o in_o this_o manner_n which_o i_o will_v here_o represent_v unto_o your_o christian_a view_n 2._o the_o romish_a manner_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a say_v 99_o say_v pag._n 99_o he_o have_v no_o certain_a testimony_n of_o antiquity_n for_o no_o man_n ever_o think_v of_o purgatory_n till_o augustine_n to_o avoid_v a_o worse_a error_n do_v doubting_o run_v into_o it_o false_a it_o and_o none_o before_o that_o be_v false_a after_o who_o false_a who_o and_o not_o all_o that_o be_v false_a many_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n embrace_v the_o same_o opinion_n but_o the_o 54._o the_o see_v before_o pag._n 54._o greek_a church_n never_o receive_v it_o to_o this_o day_n 3._o he_o be_v yet_o more_o severe_a unto_o s._n augustine_n unto_o the_o papist_n and_o unto_o this_o doctrine_n saying_n that_o 79._o that_o pag._n 79._o augustine_n doubtful_o broach_v that_o opinion_n which_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o papist_n of_o their_o heresy_n touch_v purgatory_n this_o imputation_n of_o heresy_n do_v cleave_v as_o strong_o unto_o the_o father_n who_o he_o pretend_v to_o honour_n and_o reverence_n as_o unto_o any_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n for_o what_o shall_v i_o speak_v of_o defunct_a of_o part._n 4._o serm._n the_o defunct_a &_o in_o querelâ_fw-la defunct_a gerson_n heresy_n in_o this_o point_n who_o he_o honour_v and_o reverence_v so_o far_o as_o to_o entitle_v he_o a_o 85._o a_o pag._n 85._o worthy_a guide_n of_o god_n church_n etc._n etc._n 4._o now_o though_o i_o observe_v many_o
child_n &_o the_o pain_n be_v more_o durable_a than_o the_o fault_n as_o joh._n as_o tract_n 124._o joh._n s._n augustine_n speak_v lest_o the_o fault_n shall_v seem_v small_a if_o the_o pain_n be_v finish_v with_o it_o 6._o now_o as_o the_o temporal_a pain_n of_o sin_n be_v just_o reserve_v after_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n so_o it_o be_v not_o always_o inflict_v in_o this_o life_n 13._o de_fw-fr civit._n d●l_n 21._o c._n 13._o but_o sometime_o in_o the_o next_o wherefore_o s._n augustine_n confess_v that_o god_n do_v design_n poenas_fw-la temporarias_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la praeteritis_fw-la distinguish_v immediate_o and_o say_v poenas_fw-la temporarias_fw-la alij_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la vit_fw-mi a_o tantùm_fw-la alij_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la alij_fw-la &_o hîc_fw-la &_o illîc_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la 7._o thus_o i_o find_v a_o double_a reason_n of_o purgatory_n the_o first_o because_o some_o small_a sin_n wherewith_o grace_n may_v consist_v in_o the_o soul_n be_v there_o expiate_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o guilt_n and_o pain_n the_o second_o because_o some_o temporal_a pain_n reserve_v by_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n after_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o guilt_n by_o his_o mercy_n be_v there_o sustain_v by_o they_o who_o have_v not_o be_v exercise_v with_o condign_a penance_n in_o this_o life_n and_o here_o arise_v a_o proper_a solution_n unto_o the_o subtlety_n of_o d._n field_n 103._o see_v before_o pag._n 103._o who_o will_v conclude_v that_o if_o all_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o which_o be_v the_o cause_n the_o effect_n must_v cease_v which_o be_v punishment_n etc._n etc._n for_o though_o the_o obligation_n unto_o eternal_a punishment_n cease_v actual_o upon_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n yet_o the_o obligation_n unto_o temporal_a punishment_n do_v remain_v by_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n &_o his_o ordinance_n concur_v with_o our_o desert_n be_v a_o sufficient_a cause_n to_o produce_v such_o effect_n therefore_o till_o his_o justice_n be_v satisfy_v the_o cause_n of_o punishment_n do_v still_o endure_v 8._o to_o conclude_v whereas_o m._n rogers_n will_v enforce_v a_o absurdity_n upon_o eckius_fw-la &_o other_o man_n as_o though_o they_o be_v distract_v into_o great_a variety_n of_o opinion_n concern_v the_o cause_n of_o purgatory_n he_o misreport_v their_o intention_n for_o though_o some_o few_o man_n do_v conceive_v that_o all_o venial_a sin_n be_v waste_v and_o take_v away_o from_o the_o soul_n immediate_o upon_o her_o separation_n from_o the_o body_n yet_o i_o see_v that_o they_o and_o all_o other_o papist_n to_o speak_v in_o my_o old_a language_n do_v concordable_o and_o uniform_o teach_v that_o no_o mortal_a sin_n such_o as_o 146._o as_o see_v d._n field_n pag._n 146._o exclude_v grace_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o 69._o and_o see_v s._n au._n enchirid._n ad_fw-la laur._n c._n 69._o exclude_v the_o soul_n from_o heaven_n be_v purdge_v after_o this_o life_n otherwise_o then_o in_o reference_n unto_o temporal_a pain_n reserve_v and_o inflict_v after_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n but_o m._n rogers_n will_v lead_v his_o reader_n to_o conceive_v that_o the_o papist_n be_v singular_o divide_v in_o their_o opinion_n some_o affirm_v that_o only_o venial_a sin_n other_o resolve_v that_o mortal_a likewise_o be_v cleanse_v in_o a_o penal_a estate_n 9_o many_o such_o collusion_n and_o device_n i_o observe_v in_o this_o author_n but_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v your_o patience_n any_o long_o with_o the_o recapitulation_n of_o his_o untruth_n forasmuch_o as_o by_o this_o little_a which_o you_o have_v already_o see_v you_o may_v conjecture_v of_o the_o rest_n which_o i_o conceal_v what_o can_v you_o expect_v from_o they_o who_o religion_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o sand_n of_o falsehood_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o rock_n of_o truth_n do_v man_n gather_v grape_n of_o thorn_n or_o fig_n of_o thistle_n wherefore_o i_o will_v now_o make_v haste_n unto_o the_o conclusion_n of_o all_o and_o i_o will_v end_v my_o discourse_n brief_o with_o he_o from_o who_o my_o conversion_n do_v happy_o begin_v chap._n ii_o of_o d._n humphrey_n and_o his_o book_n entitle_v secunda_fw-la pars_fw-la jesuitisini_fw-la contain_v his_o answer_n unto_o the_o 5._o former_a reason_n of_o edm._n campian_n concern_v the_o author_n and_o his_o work_n i_o will_v say_v little_a it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o principal_a divine_n in_o england_n that_o d._n humphrey_n be_v worthy_a to_o endito_fw-mi such_o a_o book_n &_o that_o the_o book_n be_v worthy_a to_o proceed_v from_o arch_a a_o man_n who_o be_v repute_v sound_a in_o the_o faith_n for_o which_o he_o suffer_v voluntary_a banishment_n &_o profound_a in_o that_o science_n wherein_o he_o be_v a_o doctor_n by_o his_o degree_n &_o oxon_n &_o at_o oxon_n professor_n by_o his_o place_n beside_o as_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o adversary_n deserve_v good_a respect_n and_o the_o weight_n of_o his_o reason_n require_v condign_a satisfaction_n which_o neither_o himself_n nor_o d._n whitaker_n have_v yield_v thereunto_o so_o it_o do_v great_o import_v he_o to_o deal_v upright_o &_o substantial_o in_o his_o answer_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o design_v two_o leycester_n two_o burleigh_n leycester_n honourable_a person_n to_o be_v the_o patroness_n of_o his_o labour_n &_o two_o learned_a cambridge_n learned_a oxford_n cambridge_n university_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o his_o exactness_n but_o when_o i_o find_v his_o unfaithfullnes_n in_o his_o relation_n his_o digression_n from_o the_o matter_n 6._o non_fw-la ideò_fw-la vera_fw-la mihi_fw-la videbantur_fw-la quia_fw-la deserta_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v s._n aug._n conf._n l._n 5._o c._n 6._o &_o the_o general_a imbecility_n of_o his_o discourse_n flourish_v with_o a_o certain_a stream_n of_o eloquence_n and_o beautify_v with_o please_a phrase_n i_o can_v not_o esteem_v that_o to_o be_v a_o true_a &_o venerable_a religion_n which_o be_v so_o base_o &_o slender_o support_v by_o they_o who_o be_v account_v pillar_n in_o our_o church_n §._o 1._o s._n augustine_n notorious_o deprave_a by_o d._n humphrey_n 3._o rat._n 3._o 1._o whereas_o that_o excellent_a and_o renown_a f._n campian_n in_o those_o short_a reason_n which_o bring_v eternal_a memory_n unto_o their_o author_n do_v object_n unto_o the_o protestant_n the_o invisibility_n of_o their_o church_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o visible_a for_o many_o age_n then_o in_o some_o scatter_a heretic_n aerius_n vigilantius_n berengarius_fw-la etc._n etc._n from_o who_o they_o receive_v not_o a_o entire_a religion_n but_o beg_v certain_a pestiferous_a fragment_n alone_o d._n 262._o d._n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la camp_n p._n 261._o 262._o humphrey_n find_v himself_o take_v in_o a_o inexplicable_a difficulty_n wind_v up_o and_o down_o to_o find_v some_o plausible_a evasion_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v wherein_o aërius_n do_v err_v we_o reject_v it_o wherein_o he_o hold_v any_o thing_n agreable_o with_o the_o scripture_n we_o receyve_v it_o etc._n etc._n 2._o after_o this_o obscure_a and_o uncertayn_a oracle_n he_o resolve_v most_o plain_o that_o he_o and_o his_o church_n will_v not_o digress_v from_o aërius_n in_o this_o point_n and_o therefore_o he_o add_v we_o do_v not_o disapprove_v that_o which_o aërius_n think_v and_o augustine_n have_v relate_v that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o pray_v nor_o to_o offer_v oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a because_o this_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o any_o precept_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o mortuis_fw-la which_o he_o quote_v aug._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la augustine_n also_o do_v seem_v to_o signify_v when_o he_o say_v that_o this_o commendation_n of_o the_o dead_a ●s_n a_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n thus_o aërius_n be_v iustify_v against_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o his_o heresy_n be_v prefer_v before_o the_o catholic_a faith_n but_o of_o this_o matter_n i_o have_v entreat_v more_o particular_o he_o particular_o pag._n 14._o i_o want_v d._n 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