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A03334	The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered.	Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659.	1609 (1609)	STC 13454; ESTC S104083	165,029	276

Augustine I am bold to intreate his leaue to honour Augustine with the name of SAINT howsoeuer he hath not once vouchsafed in his fower bookes to grace him or any Father with this glorious title is the greatest of all the Fathers and worthiest Deuine that the Church of God euer had since the Apostles times Wherefore I was imboldned to rest securely in his excellent resolution which here ensueth h De Ciuit Dei l. 21. c. 24. The prayer of the Church or of godly persons is heard for some men deceased out of this world but yet for such onely as being regenerated in Christ did neither liue so ill that 〈◊〉 they be made vnworthy of mercy nor yet so well 〈◊〉 that they haue no need thereof At the resurrection of the dead there shall be some found to whom mercy shall be granted that whereas their soules haue suffered * Purgatory paynes after death they shall not be cast into euerlasting fire Neque enim VERACITER diceretur c. For it could not be said TRVLY of some men that their sinnes should not be forgiuen in this world nor in the world to come vnlesse there should be some men who though they are not pardoned in this world yet they should be pardoned in the world to come So he in whose profound and iudicious apprehension there is a penall estate of soules temporally afflicted after their dissolution from the body if there be any truth in the holy Scripture it self which some Protestants haue bene more ready to abiure then to relinquish their owne preiudicate opinions 2. My second Authour was that worthy Pope S. Gregory sirnamed the Great who as he was deare vnto me for many respects so principally because he was the Apostle of our nation for i S. Bernard de cōsiderat lib. 3. he destinated Augustine to deliuer the faith of Christ vnto the English and hence our Venerable contrey man k Eccles hist. l. 2. c. 1. S. Beba feareth not to say though he be not an Apostle vnto others yet doubtlesse he is so vnto vs for we are the seale of his Apostleshipp in our Lord. His sentence is this l Dialog l. 4. c. 39. We must belieue that there is a Purgatory fire before the day of Iudgement because the Truth doth say If any man shall vtter blasphemy against the holy Ghost it shall not be forgiuen him neither in this world nor in the world to come In which saying we are giuen to vnderstand that some sinnes may be released in this world and some in the next Quod enim de vno negatur consequens intellectus patet quia de quibusdam conceditur For that which is denied of one is consequently yealded of the other So he whose reason seemed very powerable vnto me in this behalf 3. My third Authour was S. Isidore Bishopp of Siuill a reuerend person wise virtuous learned and alwayes accepted as an eminent Doctour of the Catholick Church His iudgement is this m De diuinis officijs l. 1. c. 18. Whereas our Lord saieth that VVhosoeuer sinneth against the holy Ghost his sinne shall not be forgiuen in this world nor in the world to come he doth demonstrate that sinnes shall be remitted vnto some men in an other world and cleansed with the fire of * S. August in Psal 37. calleth it the fire of emendatiō Purgation 4. My fourth Authour was S. Beda one of the principall ornaments of our nation and renowned in the Christian world for his many and learned volumes which are extant at this day His iudgement is this n Commēt in Matth. 12. Whereas our Lord denieth pardon vnto him that despayreth both in this life and in the life to come without all question he doth declare that there is remission of some sinnes after this life Agayn o Commēt in Marc. 3. Whereas it is said in the Ghospell that he who blasphemeth the holy Ghost shall haue no remission in this world nor in the world to come we are informed that some sinnes are remitted in this world and some in the next For that which is denied vnto one is consequently granted vnto an other 5. My fift Authour was S. Bernard whom I did alwayes affect by a secret and peculiar instinct And though the common prouerbe goeth thus Bernardus non vidit omnia Bernard saw not all things yet that was not otherwise intended of him then S. Augustine writeth touching an honourable Martyr Cyprian saw not all things that so some more excellent thing might be seene through him And thus they are not abased but aduanced rather who though they were men of admirable value yet they were not exempted from the errours of infirmity attending vpon the condition of mankind 6. The sentence of S. Bernard is this p Serm. 66. in Cantic Theis men viz the * Progenitours of the Waldēsian sect Henricians c. do not belieue that there remayneth a Purgatory after death but that the soule being separated from the body doth passe immediatly either vnto rest or vnto damnation Let them aske therefore of him that saied there is a sinne which shall not be remitted neither in this world nor in the world to come why he spake thus if there remayn no forgiuenesse nor purgation of sinne in the world to come §. 3. My reasons to follow the doctrinall expositions of the Fathers and chiefly where they consent rather then of ZANCH LVTH ZVINGL CALV c. 1. VVHen I had premised theis considerations I could not approoue the censorious and rash humour of Hierome Zanchy an Authour vnto whom I had dedicated no small part of my affection who q De Naturâ Dei l 4 c. 4. discoursing lardgely of prayer for the dead concludeth thus If the Fathers did intend that some sinnes are remitted in the next world which were not remitted in this we may reiect them all in this arcicle with a good conscience 2. For I did conceiue first that Zanchius in the multiplicity of his reading could not be ignorant of the Fathers resolution herein and therefore his supposition if the Fathers c. was very friuolous Secondly I considered that in this dispute or in the like I could with greater reason and better conscience admitt the interpretation of the Fathers then of any late Professour in the reformed Churches as they are stiled and I was induced herevnto for three necessary respects 3. FIRST because Iohn Caluin whom certayn * Pinczouiens Ministers in Polonia do gloriously intitle the Doctour of Doctours the Diuine of Diuines who alone is of more value then an hundred Augustines and hence it is that in the lardge * Imprinted at the Black Friers Table of Gods faithfull witnesses he is extolled thus No man could expound the Scriptures more q His cunning herein is declared by D. Hunnius a Lutheran saying that Caluin was an acute Instrument of the Diuell cunningly then he renouncing the iudgement of

willingnesse to belieue meeting with other mens facility to deceiue did captiuate my blind thoughts into the society of their errour For as Iudah committed folly with Thamar Genes 38. because hir habit was chandged and hir face couered so I was intangled with their conceipts because they maske their intolerable falsehood disguise it vnder the shape of great syncerity and truth Thus D. MORTON protesteth In Cathol Apol. Part. 1. Epist. ad Lector that he may call God to be a witnesse and reuendger against his soule if he deceiue any mā * Si sciens fallo vvith his knovvledge Nay God forbid that for defence of truth vvhich is life he should procure the assistance of a ly vvhich slayeth the soule But * Ipse legēdo reperiet c. See S. Aug Conf. l. 3. c. 12. discouering their vanities at the appoynted time and seing how pitifully I had bene * Vsque ad annūaetatis 28. c. See S. August Confess l. 4. c. 1. Ierem. 17.11 See S. Hierom. in hūc locum Also S. August contra Faustum l. 13. c. 12. seduced by them whose words seemed vnto me diuine Oracles I could not be any longer led by them vvho do so grossly abuse their ovvne knovvledge to deceiue poore ignorant credulous soules And thus as Nature teacheth the yong Partridge to forsake the false damme to receiue more sweet protection vnder hir wings by whom she was brought forth so Grace teacheth me to disclayme hereticall Congregatiōs and to submitt my self vnto the direction of that Mother-Church which brought me forth vnto God by baptisme and therefore doth challendge right in me as in hir owne child THE FIRST PART CONCERNING THE VNTRVTHS AND CORRVPT DEALING OF D. FIELD IN THE question of Purgatory and Prayer for the dead CHAP. I. How the 4. Doctors of the Church viz. S. Gregory S. Augustine S. Hierome and S. Ambrose are traduced by D. Field in this particular §. 1. S. GREGORY abused by D. Field A note concerning S. BERNARD THE substance of D. Fields discourse concerning the CHVRCH the greatest and most ponderous subiect in all religious disputes as he affirmeth * In his epist to the Archb. saying that men desirous of satisfaction in things of such consequence as the matters now controuersed are must diligently search out the true Church that so they may embrace hir communion follow hir directions and * Nota. rest in hir iudgement consisteth principally in this issue to witt that the opinions wherein the Papists dissent from the Protestants at this day were not the doctrines of the Church See his third booke chap. 6. 7. but of a faction onely predominating in the same 2. Now forasmuch as the copious declaratiō of this poynt would exceede the conuenient quantity Chap. 7. or compasse of that chapter wherein the seuerall differences betwixt the Papists and Protestants are briefly and * See one example afterward chap. 4. falsely also in some part sett downe it pleased him to frame a certayn Appendix which he annexeth vnto his third booke and therein he vndertaketh to iustify the aforesayd position by the testimonies of sondry Fathers Schoole-authours whom he there calleth worthy and learned men For so he is accustomed to speake honourably of his enimies for his owne aduantadge 3. Descending vnto the controuersy * Chap. 20. VVhether any sinnes be remitted after this life or not he vseth this pretense viz. Whereas Lombard and others do say that some veniall sinnes are remitted after this life we must so vnderstand their sayings that therefore they are sayd to be remitted after this life because they are taken away in the very moment of dissolution and the last instant of life is the first after life c. This is the summe of that exposition which he maketh of Lombards and other mens opinion concerning the remission of sinnes after this life wherein how syncerely and exactly he dealeth I will not now dispute 4. I come vnto his proof brought forth by him to corroborate the aforesaid exposition which I will here relate word by word as it standeth in his booke Hereunto seemeth * Dialog l. 4. cap. 46. GREGORY to agree saying that the very feare that is found in men dying doth purdge their soules going out of the body from the lesser sinnes Seeing therefore as * In Psalm Qui habitat ser 10. BERNARD sayth if all sinne be perfectly taken away which is the cause the effect must needs cease which is punishment it followeth that seeing after death there is no sinne found in men dying in state of grace there remayneth no punishment and consequently no Purgatory So he 5. But when I viewed the Author himself I found that the sentence of S. Gregory doth beare much otherwise then it is here deliuered by M. Doctors pen for thus it soundeth in a true and faithfull translation FOR THE MOST PART very feare alone doth purdge the soules of IVST men going out of their bodies from their LEAST sinnes Wherefore I noted three poynts of fraudulency committed by the Doctour in a few words First by an Omission for whereas S. Gregory sayth PLERVMQVE for the most part it is so he cashiereth this particular and vouchsafeth it no mention at all Secondly by his Reddition for whereas S. Gregory saieth MINIMIS the smallest sinnes he chandgeth the degree and translateth lesser sinnes which was no little deceipt in him that had a purpose to collude Thirdly by an Extension for whereas S. Gregory saieth IVSTORVM the soules of iust men he rendreth the speach in a more generall and vnconfined manner viz. the soules of men dying and thus he mangleth a cleare sentence to deriue a conclusion from it Many such tricks were discouered by the B. of Eureux in the writings of the L. Plessis See the defence of the Relation of a triall concerning Religion in France It is annexed to the Examen of Fox his Calendar-Saints Part. 1. a Cathol doctr pag. 121. contrary to the purpose of the author there and his doctrine in other places 6. For if not all light sinnes but the LEAST in the soules of IVST men to witt such as are of singular sanctity and not generally of men dying in state of grace are FOR THE MOST PART and not alwayes purdged out by feare at the time of their death then it followeth by ineuitable deduction that some sinnes are purdged in an other world and consequently there is a Purgatory for this vse This is the intendment of S. Gregory and therefore a M. Rogers that Catholick Authour dissembleth not this matter in S. Gregory but sayth plainely as the truth is which fault he is not much subiect vnto Some Papists viz. Gregor dialog l. 4. c. 39. do think that onely veniall sinnes are purdged in Purgatory 7. In which passadge three things offered themselues vnto my consideration First the limitation of his speach SOME a particle meerely superfluous

See afterward Part. 2. chap. 1. §. 2. For all Papists are of this opinion viz. that no sinnes but veniall onely shall be expiated in Purgatory fire Secondly the imputation of POPERY fastened vpon him from whom we English-men receiued our first instruction in the faith This was a good motiue vnto me to embrace Popery as passionate Sir Martin Luther phraseth the Catholick Religion whom I might more justly call a foule mouthed dogg then b Against D. Bishopp Part. 1. D. Abbott bestoweth this homely courtesy vpon a very learned * T. W. Priest since we were translated immediately from Paganisme vnto this belief by the wonderfull and gracious operation of almighty God Thirdly his confession of S. Gregories judgement concerning the remission of some sinnes after this life which D. Field would infrindge as you see by misinforcing his testimony against his euident purpose in that * Lib. 4. dial 39. place and his resolution elswhere 8. For in his exposition of the penitentiall Psalmes he deliuereth in * Psal 1. 3. in the beginning of each two seuerall places and strengtheneth himself in the first with the authority of S. AVGVSTINE whom he there expressly nameth that some men passe into heauen by the fire of purgation and are expiated thereby in the future life Could I desire a more copious satisfaction in the truth of this matter Or could I wish a more abundant redargution of D. Fields falsehood in traducing the Testaments of the dead for so their works are to establish that doctrine which they did wholly disclayme 9. Now a word or two concerning S. Bernard whom he coupleth very plausibly with S. Gregory as you may see to inferr a conclusion against that faith which they both professed I turned vnto the place in S. Bernard which truly can by no meanes admitt such an interpretation as M. Doctor doth colourably pretend For it is not the meaning of S. Bernard to deny that God doth at any time inflict a temporall payn after the remission of the guilt of sinne because this position were extreamely repugnant vnto Scriptures and Fathers and Reason as I shall briefly declare * Part. 2. chap. 1. §. 2. afterward and vnto the very condition of the Sacrament of Pennance it self wherein S. Bernard knew right well that sinne is remitted and yet all future punishment is not thereby taken away This was the conforme doctrine of the Catholicks in his time and who is so meanely skilled in S. Bernards faith as to conceiue that he would oppugne a matter of such sublimity and so correspondently intertayned by the Church 10. But the truth is this S. Bernard perswadeth men to flye from the contagion of sinne the effect whereof is such that as by naturall death it seuereth the soule from the body so by spirituall death it sundreth God from the soule And as sinne brought forth punishment so the cessation from sinne preuenteth punishment because no punishment doth follow where no sinne is gone before What then doth no effect of sinne remayn where the guylt of sinne is remitted S. Bernard * He esteemeth death it self to be a punishment of sinne as you may see by the sequele denieth it and therefore shewing in what sense he there intendeth that VVhen ALL sinne shall be * Prorsus D. Field himself cōfesseth pag. 98. that Death tyrannizeth ouer the body c. Serm. in ●bitu Huberti VVHOLLY taken out of the way then shall no effect of it remayn he subnecteth this sentence in his sweet and diuine manner viz. Happy is our expectation and blessed is our hope whose Resurrection shall be much more glorious then our first estate of creation before our fall forasmuch as neither sinne nor punishment neither euill nor scourdge shall raigne or dwell or haue possibility to raigne or dwell either in our bodies or soules 11. To conclude it may please you to read and to ponderate this one little saying of S. Bernard by which you may take an estimate of his iudgement in theis matters My brethren while you think to auoyd a very small punishment in this world you incurr a greater in the next For you must vnderstand that you shall pay an hundred fold in * In purgabilibus locis Purgatory for those things which you neglect in this life 12. I know most kind Readers that you meruayle no lesse now then I did by what art D. Field can distill his Church out of the writings of theis worthy and learned men or how their authorities may be honestly alleadged to prooue that Papists are nothing els but a faction in the Church forasmuch as those Authors generally whom he produceth in his glorious Appendix are really interessed in that faction and enimies of our Protestanticall Church Wherefore I did now sufficiently vnderstand that we Protestants assuming the name of Israell vnto our selues and imputing the name of Philistims vnto the Papists could not iustify our affectation therein by any better resemblance then this viz. As the poore 1. Sam. 13.19.20 distressed Israelites were constrayned to repayr vnto the Philistims for the sharpening of their dulled tooles so we miserable Protestants hauing no better meanes are inforced to go vnto the Papists to procure some weapons for our defence from them which we turne vngratefully and vniustly against their owne bowells §. 2. S. AVGVSTINE abused by D. Field 1. YOu haue * Pag. 13. seene the goodly pretense of D. Field assuring you that the Protestants honour and reuerence the Fathers much more then the Papists do Which venditation if it did proceede from a syncere heart then D. Field should not stand in need of his inflexions and corruptions to sustayn his cause with their disgrace and much lesse with infaming the greatest of them all in this manner which I will here represent vnto your Christian view 2. The Romish manner of praying for the dead saith c Pag. 99. he hath no certayn testimony of Antiquity for NO MAN euer thought of Purgatory TILL Augustine to auoyd a worse errour did DOVBTINGLY runne into it d And none before that is false after whom e And not all that is false many in the Latin Church embraced the same opinion but the * See befor pag. 54. Greek Church neuer receiued it to this day 3. He is yet more seuere vnto S. Augustine vnto the Papists and vnto this doctrine saying that f Pag. 79. Augustine doubtfully broached that opinion which gaue occasion to the Papists of their HERESY touching Purgatory This imputation of heresy doth cleaue as strongly vnto the Fathers whom he pretendeth to honour and reuerence as vnto any Papist at this day for what should I speake of g Part. 4. Serm. de defunct in Querelâ defunct GERSONS heresy in this point whom he honoureth and reuerenceth so farr as to intitle him a * Pag. 85. worthy guide of Gods Church c. 4. Now though I obserued many

children the payn is more durable then the fault as * Tract 124. Ioh. S. Augustine speaketh least the fault should seeme small if the payn were finished with it 6. Now as the temporall payn of sinne is justly reserued after the remission of the guilt so it is not alwayes inflicted in this life De Ciuit. D●l 21. c. 13. but sometimes in the next Wherefore S. Augustine confessing that God doth designe poenas tēporarias pro peccatis praeteritis distinguisheth immediately and saith poenas temporarias alij in hac vit a tantùm alij post mortem alij hîc illîc patiuntur 7. Thus I found a double reason of Purgatory the FIRST because some smaller sinnes wherewith grace may consist in the soule are there expiated both in respect of guilt and payn the SECOND because some temporall payn reserued by the justice of God after forgiuenesse of the guilt by his mercy is there sustayned by them who haue not bene exercised with condigne pennance in this life And here ariseth a proper solution vnto the subtility of D. Field See before pag. 103. who would conclude that if all sinne be taken away which is the cause the effect must cease which is punishment c. For though the obligation vnto eternall punishment ceaseth actually vpon remission of the guilt yet the obligation vnto temporall punishmēt doth remayn by the justice of God his ordinance concurring with our desert is a sufficient cause to produce such effect Therefore till his justice be satisfied the cause of punishment doth still endure 8. To cōclude Whereas M. Rogers would inforce an absurdity vpon Eckius other men as though they were distracted into great variety of opinion cōcerning the cause of Purgatory he misreporteth their intentions For though some few men did conceiue that all veniall sinne is wasted and taken away from the soule immediatly vpon hir separation from the body yet I saw that they and all other Papists to speake in my old language do concordably and vniformely teach that no mortall sinne such as * See D. Field pag. 146. excludeth grace from the soule and * See S. Au. Enchirid. ad Laur. c. 69. excludeth the soule from heauen is purdged after this life otherwise then in reference vnto temporall payn reserued and inflicted after remission of the guilt But M. Rogers would lead his reader to conceiue that the Papists are singularly diuided in their opinions some affirming that onely Veniall sinnes others resoluing that Mortall likewise are cleansed in a penall estate 9. Many such collusions and deuices I obserued in this Author but I will not trouble your patiēce any longer with the recapitulatiō of his vntruths forasmuch as by this little which you haue already seene you may coniecture of the rest which I conceale VVhat can you expect from them whose Religion is founded vpon the sands of falsehood and not vpon the rock of truth Do men gather grapes of thornes or figges of thistles Wherefore I will now make hast vnto the conclusion of all and I will end my discourse briefly with him frō whom my conuersion did happily beginne CHAP. II. Of D. HVMFREY and his booke intituled Secunda pars Iesuitisini cōtayning his answer vnto the 5. former Reasons of EDM. CAMPIAN COncerning the Authour and his work I will say little it is the iudgement of many principall Diuines in Englād that D. Humfrey was worthy to endito such a booke that the booke is worthy to proceed from Arch a man who was reputed sound in the fayth for which he suffered voluntary banishment profound in that science wherein he was a Doctour by his degree * At Oxon Professour by his place Besides as the qualitie of the aduersary deserued good respect and the weight of his reasons required condigne satisfaction which neither himself nor D. VVhitaker haue yealded thereunto so it did greatly import him to deale vprightly substantially in his answere forasmuch as he designed two * Burleigh Leycester honourable Persons to be the Patrones of his labour two learned * Oxford Cābridge Vniuersities to be the Iudges of his exactnesse But when I found his vnfaithfullnes in his relatiōs his digressions from the matter Non ideò vera mihi videbantur quia deserta c. See S. Aug. Conf. l. 5. c. 6. the generall imbecillity of his discourse flourished with a certayn streame of eloquence and beautified with pleasing phrases I could not esteeme that to be a true venerable Religion which is so basely slenderly supported by thē who are accompted Pillars in our Church §. 1. S. AVGVSTINE notoriously depraued by D. HVMFREY Rat. 3. 1. VVHereas that excellent and renowned F. Campian in those short Reasons which bring eternall memory vnto their Authour doth obiect vnto the Protestants the inuisibility of their Church and that it was not otherwise visible for many ages then in some scattering hereticks AERIVS Vigilantius Berengarius c. from whom they receiued not an entyre religion but begged certayn pestiferous fragments alone D. c In resp ad Camp p. 261. 262. Humfrey finding himself taken in an inexplicable difficulty windeth vp and downe to find some plausible euasion and therefore he sayeth VVherein Aërius did erre we reject it wherein he held any thing agreably with the Scripture we receyue it c. 2. After this obscure and vncertayn oracle he resolueth most plainely that he and his Church will not digresse from Aërius in this poynt and therefore he addeth We do not disapproue that which Aërius thought and Augustine hath related that we ought not to pray nor to offer oblation for the dead because this is not contayned in any precept of the Scripture which d He quoteth Aug. de cura pro mortuis Augustine also doth seeme to signify when he sayeth that this commendation of the dead ●s an ancient custome of the Church Thus Aërius is iustifyed against the vniuersall Church and his heresy is preferred before the Catholicke faith But of this matter I haue intreated more particularly * Pag. 14. I wanted D. Hūfrey his booke when I cited his opinion which I haue faithfully deliuered though the word rectè be not in my author yet it i● sufficiently implied in him before 3. The thing which I yeald now vnto your cōsideration is the subtile and artificiall collusiō of this renowned Doctor For wheras he pretendeth Scripture negatiuely against prayer for the dead and that S. Augustine had only custome to maintayne it I found that S. Augustine premiseth Scripture in defence therof then confirmeth it by that authority which to † Epist 118. impugne is the part of most insolent madnesse For e de curâ pro mort cap. 1. sayth he VVe read in the bookes of the * 2. 12. 4● Machabees that Sacrifice was offered for the dead But if this were read no where in the OLD