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to_o church_n privilege_n they_o be_v indeed_o in_o some_o place_n as_o to_o providential_a advantage_n of_o hear_v the_o word_n preach_v but_o woe_n unto_o they_o on_o that_o account_n it_o shall_v be_v more_o tolerable_a for_o mahometan_n in_o that_o day_n of_o christ_n then_o for_o they_o shall_v their_o baptism_n avail_v they_o though_o it_o be_v valid_a in_o its_o administration_n that_o be_v be_v celebrate_v in_o obedience_n to_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n be_v it_o not_o null_a to_o they_o be_v not_o their_o circumcision_n uncircumcision_n shall_v such_o person_n give_v their_o child_n any_o right_a to_o church_n privilege_n let_v they_o if_o you_o please_v be_v so_o subject_n to_o christ_n as_o rebel_n and_o traitor_n be_v subject_a to_o their_o earthly_a prince_n they_o ought_v indeed_o to_o be_v so_o but_o be_v they_o so_o do_v they_o own_v their_o authority_n be_v they_o obedient_a to_o they_o do_v they_o enjoy_v any_o privilege_n of_o law_n or_o do_v the_o apostle_n anywhere_o call_v such_o person_n as_o live_v in_o a_o course_n of_o wickedness_n manifest_v principle_n utter_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n brethren_n god_n forbid_v we_o shall_v once_o imagine_v these_o thing_n so_o to_o be_v and_o so_o much_o for_o that_o chapter_n chap._n viii_o of_o independentism_n and_o donatism_n the_o title_n of_o our_o author_n book_n be_v independency_n a_o great_a schism_n of_o this_o chapter_n that_o it_o may_v be_v the_o better_o know_v what_o kind_n of_o schism_n it_o be_v independentism_n be_v donatism_n man_n may_v give_v what_o title_n they_o please_v to_o their_o book_n and_o chapter_n though_o perhaps_o few_o book_n make_v good_a their_o title_n i_o be_o sure_a this_o do_v not_o as_o yet_o nisi_fw-la accusasse_fw-la sufficiat_fw-la attempt_n of_o proof_n we_o have_v not_o as_o yet_o meet_v withal_o what_o this_o chapter_n will_v furnish_v we_o withal_o we_o shall_v now_o consider_v he_o indeed_o that_o shall_v 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optima_fw-la cogitare_fw-la difficulima_fw-la ferre_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la erunt_fw-la as_o the_o case_n be_v fall_v out_o we_o must_v deal_v with_o it_o as_o we_o can_v 1._o he_o say_v he_o be_v not_o satisfy_v that_o he_o not_o only_o deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o call_v to_o be_v a_o particular_a church_n pag._n 154._o but_o also_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o that_o he_o be_v not_o satisfy_v with_o what_o i_o affirm_v of_o that_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n where_o he_o have_v his_o throne_n i_o can_v help_v it_o though_o i_o be_o sorry_a for_o it_o i_o be_o not_o also_o without_o some_o trouble_n that_o i_o can_v understand_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o place_v my_o word_n so_o as_o to_o intimate_v that_o i_o say_v not_o only_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o particular_a church_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o as_o though_o it_o may_v in_o his_o judgement_n or_o i_o be_v any_o church_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o i_o very_o suppose_v neither_o he_o nor_o i_o judge_v it_o to_o be_v that_o catholic_n church_n whereto_o it_o pretend_v but_o yet_o as_o i_o have_v no_o great_a reason_n to_o expect_v that_o this_o reverend_a author_n shall_v be_v satisfy_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o affirm_v so_o i_o hope_v that_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a but_o that_o without_o any_o great_a difficulty_n he_o may_v be_v reconcile_v to_o himself_o affirm_v the_o very_a same_o thing_n that_o i_o do_v p._n 113._o it_o be_v of_o rome_n in_o that_o sense_n wherein_o it_o claim_v itself_o to_o be_v a_o church_n that_o i_o speak_v and_o in_o that_o sense_n he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n and_o so_o for_o my_o part_n i_o account_v it_o no_o church_n at_o all_o but_o he_o add_v that_o he_o be_v far_o more_o unsatisfied_a that_o i_o undertake_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o donatist_n and_o labour_n to_o exempt_v they_o from_o schism_n though_o i_o allow_v they_o guilty_a of_o 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