Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	catholic_n	church_n	universal_a	1,773	5	9.0565	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93387	Of the al-svfficient external proposer of matters of faith. Devided into tvvo bookes In the first. Is proved, that the true church of God, is the al-sufficient external proposer of matters of faith. In the second. Is shewed the manifold uncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture: and how scripture is, or is not, an entire rule of faith. By C. R. doctor of diuinitie.	Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.	1653 (1653)	Wing S4156; ESTC R228293	181,733	514

10._o secondely_n potter_n sec_fw-la 5._o p._n 2d_o 89._o laud_fw-la p._n ●●7_n 165._o caluin_n admon●s_n ult._n p._n 3●2_n marty●_n la●_n 4._o c._n 10._o protestant_n differ_v from_o catholics_n in_o that_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n even_o such_o as_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v beleve_v only_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o clear_a revelation_n sufficien_o propose_v to_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o well_o be_v of_o faith_n even_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o they_o conte●ne_v when_o as_o indeed_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o better_a be_v or_o perfection_n of_o faith_n even_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o they_o contain_v for_o as_o in_o natural_a thing_n god_n do_v not_o give_v what_o be_v superfluous_a both_o to_o their_o be_v and_o also_o to_o their_o well_o be_v or_o perfection_n so_o nether_a do_v he_o in_o supernatural_a matter_n as_o be_v point_n of_o faith_n whererpon_o the_o apostle_n 1._o thessaly_n 3._o desire_v to_o add_v something_n which_o be_v want_v to_o their_o faith_n and_o yet_o doubtless_o nothing_o be_v want_v to_o the_o very_o be_v of_o their_o save_a faith_n but_o only_o to_o the_o well_o be_v or_o perfection_n thereof_o and_o ephes._n 4._o he_o say_v that_o god_n give_v pastor_n to_o the_o consummation_n or_o perfection_n of_o saint_n wherefore_o as_o far_o as_o the_o better_a be_v or_o perfection_n of_o christian_a faith_n or_o consummation_n of_o saint_n reach_v so_o far_o also_o reach_v the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n and_o when_o some_o catholics_n say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a only_o in_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o canus_n l._n 5._o loco_fw-la 5._o stapleton_n controu_fw-fr 4._o q._n 2._o ad_fw-la quartum_fw-la argumentum_fw-la and_o bellarmin_n l._n 4._o de_fw-la pontifice_fw-la c._n 5._o they_o do_v not_o mean_v as_o some_o 29._o some_o potter_n sec_fw-la 5._o p._n 16._o 17._o 22._o 29._o protestant_n think_v that_o 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not_o such_o as_o be_v necessary_a only_o to_o some_o but_o see_v christ_n have_v institute_v his_o church_n as_o a_o necessary_a mean_n to_o save_v all_o and_o every_o kind_n of_o man_n she_o must_v needs_o be_v as_o in_o fallible_a in_o matter_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o salvation_n only_o of_o some_o as_o she_o be_v in_o matter_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o salvation_n of_o al._n for_o else_o he_o shall_v fail_v in_o a_o necessaire_fw-fr mean_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o some_o kind_n of_o man_n which_o be_v impious_a to_o think_v see_v he_o come_v to_o save_v all_o kind_n of_o man_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v make_v his_o church_n infallible_a as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v necessary_a only_o to_o the_o salvation_n of_o some_o kind_n of_o man_n as_o which_o be_v necessary_a to_o all_o kind_n of_o man_n and_o this_o be_v so_o evident_a as_o whitaker_n controu_n 2._o q._n 4._o c._n 2._o confess_v that_o in_o thing_n necessary_a to_o any_o question_n the_o full_a sense_n of_o this_o question_n the_o church_n err_v not_o so_o that_o our_o meaning_n in_o this_o question_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n be_v that_o the_o catholic_n or_o universal_a church_n through_o god_n efficatious_a assistance_n certain_o or_o infallible_o never_o err_v in_o any_o point_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n either_o for_o the_o matter_n and_o divine_a revelation_n too_o or_o only_o for_o divine_a revelation_n sufficient_o propose_v or_o necessary_a either_o to_o the_o be_v or_o well_o be_v of_o faith_n either_o of_o all_o man_n or_o of_o any_o kind_n of_o man_n so_o that_o in_o what_o point_n soever_o which_o be_v any_o way_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n either_o of_o all_o or_o of_o any_o man_n the_o church_n infallible_o never_o err_v through_o god_n efficatious_a assistance_n of_o she_o which_o assistance_n christ_n have_v most_o clear_o promise_v to_o she_o as_o he_o have_v promise_v to_o her_o remission_n of_o all_o sin_n 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honour_v and_o reverence_n as_o the_o queen_n and_o plain_o goddess_n of_o tradition_n and_o l._n 1._o c_o 36._o relate_v the_o foresay_a word_n of_o brentius_n and_o allow_v they_o feild_n of_o the_o church_n l_o 4._o c._n 20._o though_o we_o reject_v the_o uncertain_a and_o vain_a tradition_n of_o the_o papist_n yet_o we_o receive_v the_o number_n and_o name_n of_o the_o author_n of_o book_n divine_a and_o canonical_a as_o deliver_v by_o tradition_n the_o number_n author_n and_o integrity_n of_o the_o part_n of_o these_o book_n of_o scripture_n we_o receive_v as_o deliver_v by_o tradition_n integrity_n of_o scripture_n beleve_v by_o tradition_n tradition_n bel_n in_o his_o downfall_n art_n 7._o p_o 134._o we_o receive_v this_o tradition_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n p._n 135._o and_o so_o this_o tradition_n be_v not_o except_v but_o virtual_o include_v in_o our_o affirmation_n moulins_n of_o tradition_n c._n 3._o and_o 2d_o we_o reject_v not_o all_o tradition_n for_o scripture_n itself_o be_v a_o tradition_n carleton_n in_o consensu_fw-la de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la c._n 9_o i_o will_v say_v free_o what_o i_o think_v i_o think_v there_o be_v some_o apostolical_a tradition_n ever_o conserve_v and_o to_o be_v conserve_v in_o the_o church_n for_o austin_n say_v not_o in_o vain_a what_o the_o whole_a church_n observe_v etc._n etc._n so_o he_o prove_v baptism_n of_o infant_n to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n so_o also_o before_o he_o origen_n from_o apostolical_a traditiou_n we_o receive_v the_o true_a canon_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o canon_n from_o hence_o the_o church_n do_v celebrate_v the_o lord_n day_n tradition_n canon_n and_o sense_n of_o it_o receive_v by_o tradition_n aretius_n loco_fw-la 33._o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o apostle_n creed_n what_o book_n be_v canonical_a which_o be_v the_o true_a exposition_n of_o scripture_n item_n universal_a tradition_n necessary_a to_o be_v 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one_o of_o these_o ibid._n as_o for_o that_o tradition_n that_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v divine_a i_o will_v handle_v that_o hereafter_o and_o sec_fw-la 16._o cit_fw-la p._n 81._o against_o this_o tradition_n that_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o church_n of_o england_n never_o except_v sess_n 15._o p._n 57_o it_o be_v not_o deny_v that_o this_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o therefore_o note_n to_o be_v beleve_v protestant_n in_o colloq_fw-la ratisb_n sess_v 11._o our_o adversary_n bring_v that_o tradition_n of_o scripture_n of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n at_o all_o among_o us._n and_o sess_v 1._o we_o grant_v that_o moses_n book_n be_v moses_n that_o this_o be_v a_o tradition_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n which_o can_v witness_v that_o moses_n book_n be_v put_v into_o the_o ark._n chillingworth_n c._n 2._o §_o 45._o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o we_o receive_v it_o 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