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even_o in_o that_o sermon_n you_o quote_v require_v confession_n of_o secret_a fault_n to_o be_v make_v only_o to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o man_n sed_fw-la confunderis_fw-la &_o erubescis_fw-la peccata_fw-la tua_fw-la effari_fw-la atqui_fw-la oportebat_fw-la maximè_fw-la apud_fw-la homines_fw-la ea_fw-la dicere_fw-la &_o invulgare_a confusio_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la peccare_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la confusio_fw-la confiteri_fw-la peccata_fw-la nunc_fw-la autem_fw-la neque_fw-la necessariùm_fw-la presentibus_fw-la testibus_fw-la confusio_fw-la confiteri_fw-la cogitation_n fiat_fw-la delictorum_fw-la exquisitio_fw-la absque_fw-la teste_fw-la sit_fw-la hoc_fw-la iudicium_fw-la solus_fw-la te_fw-la deus_fw-la confitentem_fw-la videat_fw-la deus_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la exprobat_fw-la peccata_fw-la tua_fw-la sed_fw-la soluit_fw-la peccata_fw-la propter_fw-la confusionem_fw-la nunquid_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la gravaris_fw-la &_o retrocedis_fw-la verùm_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la scio_fw-la quòd_fw-la conscientia_fw-la non_fw-la sustinet_fw-la sva_fw-la delicta_fw-la but_o thou_o be_v ashamed_a and_o abash_v to_o utter_v thy_o sin_n yet_o thou_o ought_v most_o of_o all_o to_o declare_v and_o publish_v they_o before_o man_n for_o it_o be_v ashame_n to_o sin_n it_o be_v no_o shame_n to_o confess_v thy_o sin_n but_o now_o it_o be_v neither_o necessary_a to_o confess_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o witness_n let_v examination_n of_o thy_o offence_n be_v make_v in_o thought_n let_v this_o judgement_n be_v without_o a_o witness_n let_v god_n only_o see_v thou_o make_v thy_o confession_n god_n which_o cast_v not_o thy_o sin_n in_o thy_o tooth_n but_o too_o faith_fw-mi thy_o sin_n for_o thy_o shame_n what_o and_o be_v thou_o greeve_v to_o do_v so_o much_o and_o go_v back_o yet_o i_o know_v shy_a conscience_n can_v abide_v she_o own_o offence_n these_o word_n a_o man_n will_v think_v shall_v be_v plain_a enough_o against_o the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n but_o that_o you_o 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their_o sin_n several_o before_o god_n and_o to_o make_v a_o hearty_a confession_n of_o our_o unworthines_n he_o add_v non_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d tibi_fw-la ut_fw-la te_fw-la prodas_fw-la in_o publicum_fw-la neque_fw-la ut_fw-la te_fw-la a_o put_fw-mi alios_fw-la accuse_v sed_fw-la obedire_fw-la te_fw-la volo_fw-la prophetae_fw-la dicenti_fw-la revela_fw-la domino_fw-la taunt_n viam_fw-la ante_fw-la deum_fw-la ergo_fw-la confitere_fw-la peccata_fw-la apud_fw-la verum_fw-la iudicem_fw-la cum_fw-la oratione_fw-la delicta_fw-la tua_fw-la pronuncia_fw-la non_fw-la lingua_fw-la sed_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la tuus_fw-la memoria_fw-la &_o tunc_fw-la demum_fw-la spera_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la te_fw-la posse_fw-la consequt_fw-la sihabueris_fw-la in_o mente_fw-la peccata_fw-la tua_fw-la contiwò_fw-la nunquam_fw-la malum_fw-la adversus_fw-la proximum_fw-la in_o cord_n retinebis_fw-la i_o say_v not_o to_o thou_o that_o thou_o ought_v to_o bewray_v thyself_o abroad_o nor_o that_o thou_o shall_v accuse_v 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