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A93581 The divine right of Presbyterie, asserted by the present Assembly, and petitioned for accordingly to the Honourable House of Commons in Parliament. With reasons discussing this pretended divine right; and yet with tendernesse to the brethren of the Presbyterial way. Pleading for a liberty of conscience for them in this their opinion, as for others of their dissenting brethren, and equally for both. With inferences upon their late petition. / By John Saltmarsh, preacher of the gospel. Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647. 1646 (1646) Wing S478; Thomason E330_29; ESTC R200732 10,981 27

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sphere_n or_o where_o rule_n they_o for_o over_o it_o they_o be_v not_o commissioner_n they_o say_v be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n and_o under_o it_o they_o be_v not_o for_o their_o presbytery_n be_v accountable_a as_o they_o say_v unto_o it_o petition_n so_o as_o they_o who_o be_v so_o much_o in_o the_o dark_a with_o their_o government_n do_v with_o magistracy_n they_o know_v not_o what_o and_o will_v place_v it_o they_o know_v not_o where_o the_o position_n be_v a_o safe_a way_n for_o the_o magistrate_n than_o the_o erastian_n and_o how_o the_o presbyterial_a brethren_n can_v just_o exclude_v he_o from_o rule_v with_o they_o according_a to_o the_o present_a constitution_n both_o of_o the_o pretend_a church_n and_o presbytery_n that_o the_o magistrate_n or_o parliament_n can_v be_v exclude_v from_o government_n in_o this_o present_a presbytery_n as_o the_o present_a assembly_n will_v exclude_v they_o because_o this_o kingdom_n of_o england_n be_v not_o a_o church_n in_o gospel_n order_n but_o a_o kingdom_n of_o believer_n in_o general_a and_o because_o their_o present_a presbyter_n and_o elder_n be_v no_o true_a presbyter_n of_o jesus_n christ_n according_a to_o gospel-order_n and_o till_o both_o this_o national_a church_n and_o officer_n be_v that_o very_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o those_o very_a officer_n of_o christ_n the_o magistrate_n may_v as_o lawful_o yea_o more_o lawful_o rule_v then_o any_o other_o pretend_a officer_n minister_n or_o elder_n among_o they_o for_o magistrate_n have_v the_o whole_a kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n allow_v from_o god_n for_o their_o place_n of_o government_n and_o this_o kingdom_n of_o england_n be_v but_o a_o kingdom_n or_o world_n of_o believer_n not_o a_o church_n they_o may_v as_o they_o be_v power_n of_o god_n rule_n among_o they_o jesus_n christ_n be_v only_a king_n and_o head_n in_o that_o church_n or_o kingdom_n which_o be_v more_o his_o own_o and_o the_o magistrate_n king_n for_o he_o in_o that_o kingdom_n which_o be_v the_o world_n or_o less_o his_o own_o so_o as_o the_o presbyterial_a brethren_n can_v exclude_v the_o civil_a power_n from_o govern_v with_o they_o according_a to_o the_o unsound_a constitution_n of_o their_o church_n minister_n and_o elder_n nor_o till_o they_o have_v prove_v the_o truth_n both_o of_o their_o very_a church_n ministry_n and_o eldership_n for_o all_o scripture_n proof_n of_o eldership_n and_o presbytery_n be_v respective_a to_o the_o true_a presbytery_n and_o eldership_n according_a to_o truth_n not_o to_o every_o pretend_a presbytery_n and_o eldership_n of_o the_o nation_n so_o as_o till_o the_o very_a constitute_v principle_n of_o presbytery_n be_v prove_v true_a no_o scripture_n either_o allege_v for_o presbytery_n belong_v to_o they_o nor_o any_o other_o by_o which_o they_o will_v exclude_v the_o magistrate_n as_o from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n conclusion_n these_o few_o thing_n i_o have_v write_v to_o draw_v forth_o the_o strength_n of_o other_o in_o a_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o be_v of_o as_o high_a concernment_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o gospel-order_n as_o any_o point_n now_o abroad_o for_o sure_o it_o be_v not_o a_o university_n a●cambridge_n or_o oxford_n a_o pulpit_n and_o black_a gown_n or_o cloak_n make_v one_o a_o true_a minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n though_o these_o be_v the_o best_a thing_n in_o the_o composition_n of_o some_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n have_v deceive_v the_o world_n with_o a_o false_a and_o artificial_a unction_n for_o that_o true_a one_o of_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o ministry_n have_v be_v so_o clothe_v with_o art_n and_o habit_n that_o if_o the_o apostle_n shall_v live_v again_o and_o preach_v in_o that_o plainness_n they_o come_v they_o will_v be_v as_o despise_v for_o we_o wonder_v after_o the_o wise_a the_o scribe_n and_o the_o disputer_n of_o this_o world_n finis_fw-la see_v ordin._n jun._n 12._o 1043._o p._n 4._o 2_o pet._n 1._o 17._o see_v their_o humble_a advice_n see_v in_o their_o humble_a advice_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o parl._n manuscr_n pag._n 4._o see_v the_o humble_a advice_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o assembly_n in_fw-la manu_fw-la see_v in_o their_o last_o petition_n see_v petition_n