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A16701 The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues. Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name. 1604 (1604) STC 3604; ESTC S119868 294,461 212

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1596._o page_n 358._o a_o sin_n 88_o &_o b._n line_n 40._o and_o of_o scotus_n see_v fox_n ibid._n page_n 130._o b._n line_n 8._o &_o osiander_n cent_n 9_o page_n 44._o and_o of_o joannes_n gaudavensis_n read_v fox_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la page_n 358._o 2._o line_n 88_o william_n occam_n john_n scotus_n and_o john_n gaudavensis_n in_o like_o unjust_a manner_n be_v name_v 11._o name_v by_o mr._n spark_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o mr._n john_n d'_fw-fr
that_o priest_n only_o be_v want_v which_o she_o perfect_v by_o persuade_v the_o king_n to_o send_v to_o the_o emperor_n of_o r●me_n for_o some_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n whereupon_o a_o certain_a worthy_a man_n be_v make_v bishope_n and_o send_v to_o preach_v to_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o iberianes_n thendoret_n hist_o l._n 1._o c._n 24._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la see_v also_o the_o former_a example_n of_o frumentius_n answer_v in_o this_o sort_n by_o d._n saravia_n in_o defence_n tract_n etc._n etc._n contra_fw-la respon_n bezae_fw-la c._n 1._o page_n 46._o ante_fw-la medium_n and_o impertinent_a if_o now_o our_o catholic_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n able_a to_o confer_v this_o call_n so_o by_o she_o 121._o she_o whittaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 9_o page_n 820._o say_v hereof_o to_o duraeus_n fuit_fw-la lutherus_n vestro_fw-la etiam_fw-la ritu_fw-la presbyter_n atque_fw-la doctor_n &c_n &c_n &_o talem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la suinglium_fw-la bucerum_fw-la oecolampadium_n 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write_n and_o certain_a by_o tradition_n with_o who_o agree_v s._n basill_n say_v 27._o say_v basil_n de_fw-fr spir._n sanct._n cap._n 27._o some_o thing_n we_o have_v from_o scripture_n other_o thing_n from_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n etc._n etc._n both_o which_o have_v like_o force_n unto_o christian_a religion_n mr._n d._n rainolde_v answer_v to_o these_o foresay_a say_n of_o basill_n and_o chrysostom_n say_v 689._o say_v d._n rainolde_v in_o his_o conclusion_n annex_v to_o his_o conference_n the_o 1._o conclusion_n pag._n 689._o i_o take_v not_o upon_o i_o to_o control_v they_o but_o let_v the_o church_n judge_n if_o they_o consider_v with_o advice_n enough_o etc._n etc._n whereunto_o may_v be_v add_v the_o like_a confess_v scripture_n confess_v where_o eusebius_n l._n 1_o demonstr_n euang._n c._n 8_o be_v object_v to_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n publish_v their_o doctrine_n partly_o by_o writing_n partly_o without_o writing_n as_o it_o be_v by_o a_o certain_a unwritten_a law_n mr._n whittaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la pag._n 668_o fine_a say_v thereto_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o testimony_n be_v plain_a enough_o but_o in_o no_o sort_n to_o be_v receive_v because_o it_o be_v against_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n from_o eusebius_n and_o thus_o much_o brief_o concern_v the_o father_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n now_o as_o concern_v the_o like_a confess_v doctrine_n in_o the_o father_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n to_o avoid_v tediousness_n s._n austin_n only_o as_o be_v most_o habetur_fw-la most_o gomarus_n in_o speculo_fw-la verae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 96_o ante_fw-la mediu_fw-la say_v augustinus_n patrum_fw-la omnium_fw-la communi_fw-la sententia_fw-la purissimus_fw-la habetur_fw-la approve_v by_o our_o adversary_n shall_v serve_v for_o all_o who_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v baptise_a by_o heretic_n shall_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v say_v 23_o say_v aug._n de_fw-fr bap._n contra_fw-la don._n l._n 5._o c._n 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