Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	authority_n	church_n	interpretation_n	4,397	5	10.0901	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A35862	A Dialogue between a new Catholic convert and a Protestant shewing the doctrin of transubstantiation to be as réasonable to be believ'd as the great mystery of the trinity by all good Catholicks.		1686 (1686)	Wing D1297; ESTC R29715	4,548	10

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