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A54912 Occasionall discourses 1. Of worship and prayer to angells and saints. 2. Of purgatorie. 3. Of the Popes supremacie. 4. Of the succession of the Church. Had with Doctor Cosens, by word of mouth, or by writing from him. By Thomas Carre confessour of the English nunnerie at Paris. As also, An answer to a libell written by the said Doctor Cosens against the great Generall councell of Lateran under Innocentius the third, in the yeere of our Lord 1215. By Thomas Vane Doctor in Diuinity of Cambridge. Carre, Thomas, 1599-1674.; Vane, Thomas, fl. 1652. Answer to a libell written by D. Cosens against the great Generall councell of Laterane under Pope Innocent the Third. aut 1646 (1646) Wing P2272; ESTC R220529 96,496 286

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that_o any_o by_o this_o art_n be_v help_v to_o return_v to_o god_n so_o that_o one_o may_v discover_v he_o waver_v betwixt_o the_o vice_n of_o sacrilegious_a curiosity_n and_o a_o philosophical_a profession_n now_o put_v one_o opinton_a now_o another_o for_o now_o he_o warn_v we_o to_o beware_v of_o this_o art_n as_o deceitful_a and_o dangerous_a in_o the_o deed_n do_v and_o prohibit_v by_o the_o law_n and_o soon_o after_o as_o give_v way_n to_o such_o as_o praise_v it_o affirm_v it_o conducible_a to_o the_o cleanse_v a_o part_n of_o the_o soul_n not_o the_o intellectual_a part_n wherein_o the_o truth_n of_o intelligible_a thing_n which_o have_v no_o corporeal_a similitude_n be_v discover_v but_o the_o spiritual_a part_n capable_a of_o corporeal_a image_n or_o resemblance_n for_o this_o part_n say_v he_o be_v adapt_v and_o fit_v by_o certain_a theurgicall_a consecration_n which_o be_v call_v teletae_n to_o the_o receipt_n of_o spirit_n and_o angel_n whereby_o to_o see_v the_o go_n and_o ibid._n ch_z 16._o whereas_o therefore_o some_o angel_n do_v excite_v man_n to_o worship_v this_o one_o god_n and_o some_o again_o excite_v they_o by_o work_a wonder_n to_o honour_n themselves_o with_o sovereign_a worship_n latriâ_fw-la and_o so_o too_o that_o those_o forbid_v that_o these_o shall_v be_v worship_v let_v the_o platonic_a say_v to_o who_o we_o shall_v rather_o give_v credit_n yea_o let_v what_o philosopher_n soever_o say_v let_v the_o theurgi_n or_o rather_o the_o perurgi_n etc._n etc._n nay_o last_o let_v even_o man_n say_v if_o there_o be_v yet_o any_o sense_n of_o humane_a nature_n whereby_o they_o be_v create_v reasonable_a creature_n in_o any_o measure_n leave_v in_o they_o whether_o we_o ought_v rather_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o those_o god_n or_o angel_n who_o command_v that_o sacrifice_n shall_v be_v offer_v to_o they_o or_o to_o he_o alone_o to_o who_o these_o command_v it_o who_o forbid_v that_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v either_o to_o themselves_o or_o to_o 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facility_n have_v meet_v withal_o as_o in_o the_o ii_o book_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n chap._n 31._o but_o the_o holy_a angel_n after_o who_o society_n and_o company_n we_o groan_v in_o this_o most_o perilous_a pilgrimage_n as_o they_o have_v a_o eternal_a permanencic_n so_o have_v they_o a_o facility_n in_o know_v they_o we_o be_v a●●●sted_v by_o they_o and_o a_o felicity_n in_o repose_v for_o without_o difficulty_n they_o help_v we_o because_o they_o labour_v not_o in_o their_o spiritual_a pure_a and_o free_a motion_n epistle_n 121._o chap._n 9_o or_o happy_o let_v they_o to_o wit_n our_o prayer_n be_v know_v to_o the_o angel_n who_o be_v with_o god_n that_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o be_v to_o offer_v they_o to_o god_n and_o what_o counsel_n they_o be_v to_o use_v therm_n god_n t●●y_v offer_v our_o prater_n to_o god_n and_o what_o by_o his_o command_v to_o wit_n god_n they_o know_v aught_o to_o be_v fulfil_v etc._n etc._n they_o may_v bring_v unto_o we_o either_o open_o or_o 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down_o the_o stair_n where_o she_o have_v stand_v she_o be_v go_v to_o pray_v to_o the_o holy_a martyr_n ad_fw-la sanctum_fw-la martyrem_fw-la orare_fw-la to_o pray_v to_o the_o martyr_n or_o at_o the_o shrine_n of_o the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n s._n stephen_n as_o be_v plain_a by_o these_o word_n follow_v what_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o those_o that_o exult_v but_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n for_o which_o stephen_n blood_n be_v pour_v out_o who_o as_o soon_o as_o she_o have_v touch_v the_o rail_n fall_v as_o it_o be_v down_o into_o a_o sleep_n she_o rise_v sound_a sight_n a_o mirucle_n wrought_v in_o s_n augugustins_n sight_n while_o therefore_o we_o make_v inquiry_n what_o have_v befall_v which_o have_v cause_v that_o joyful_a noise_n they_o bring_v her_o sound_n into_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n where_o we_o be_v from_o the_o place_n where_o the_o martyr_n lie_v then_o both_o man_n and_o woman_n make_v so_o great_a a_o admit_v noise_n that_o the_o bruit_n continue_v with_o tear_n seem_v to_o find_v no_o period_n she_o be_v lead_v to_o that_o place_n where_o a_o little_a before_o she_o have_v stand_v tremble_v etc._n etc._n the_o 7._o book_n and_o 1._o chap._n against_o the_o donatist_n let_v he_o s._n syprian_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v help_v we_o by_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o mortality_n of_o this_o flesh_n particular_a a_o saint_n pray_v to_o in_o particular_a as_o person_n labour_v in_o a_o dark_a cloud_n etc._n etc._n upon_o psalm_n the_o 83._o all_o the_o martyr_n which_o be_v with_o he_o christ_n do_v intercede_v for_o we_o us._n the_o saint_n intercede_v for_o us._n their_o intercession_n be_v not_o end_v save_v with_o the_o end_n of_o our_o sobbing_n the_o 1._o sermon_n on_o the_o feast_n of_o s._n stephen_n saint_n stephen_n be_v hear_v that_o by_o his_o prayer_n saul_n sin_n may_v be_v blot_v out_o stephen_n we_o counsel_v to_o pray_v to_o s._n stephen_n let_v we_o therefore_o commend_v ourselves_o to_o his_o prayer_n for_o much_o more_o be_v he_o now_o hear_v for_o those_o that_o pray_v right_o to_o he_o in_o psalm_n 88_o sermon_n 2._o let_v we_o celebrate_v the_o birthdaye_n of_o saint_n with_o sobriety_n celebrate_v their_o birthday_n celebrate_v that_o we_o may_v imitate_v they_o who_o go_v before_o we_o and_o let_v they_o rejoice_v in_o we_o who_o pray_v for_o we_o that_o the_o blessing_n of_o our_o lord_n may_v for_o ever_o remain_v with_o us._n in_o the_o city_n of_o god_n 10._o book_n the_o 12._o chap._n when_o his_o angel_n do_v hear_v us._n the_o angel_n hear_v us._n he_o god_n do_v hear_v in_o they_o as_o in_o his_o true_a temple_n not_o make_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o man_n against_o faustus_n the_o 20._o book_n the_o chap._n 21._o christian_n people_n do_v
celebrate_v together_o the_o memory_n of_o martyr_n with_o a_o religious_a solemnity_n worship_n religious_a worship_n both_o to_o excite_v imitation_n sacrifice_n sacrifice_n to_o be_v make_v fellow_n partner_n in_o their_o merit_n and_o to_o be_v help_v by_o their_o prayer_n yet_o so_o as_o we_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o none_o of_o the_o martyr_n but_o to_o the_o very_a god_n of_o martyr_n altar_n altar_n though_o we_o erect_v altar_n in_o the_o memory_n of_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n if_o then_o saint_n augustins_n mind_n be_v make_v good_a by_o so_o many_o and_o so_o manifest_a place_n to_o what_o end_n shall_v the_o d._n come_v yet_o cold_o drop_v another_o seem_a place_n out_o of_o the_o say_a saint_n or_o to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v i_o answer_v it_o howbeit_o let_v yet_o hear_v he_o speak_v for_o every_o one_o full_a satisfaction_n s._n augustin_n l._n 2._o contra_fw-la ep._n parm._n chap._n 8._o cos._n if_o the_o apostle_n have_v say_v you_o shall_v have_v one_o for_o your_o advocate_n and_o i_o will_v pray_v the_o father_n for_o your_o sin_n what_o good_a or_o faithful_a christian_n will_v have_v endure_v it_o or_o account_v he_o one_o of_o christ_n apostle_n and_o not_o rather_o have_v look_v upon_o he_o as_o upon_o a_o antichrist_n car._n i_o answer_v first_o that_o by_o advocate_n which_o be_v indeed_o in_o the_o text_n mediator_n the_o d._n will_v either_o have_v s._n augustine_n after_o the_o apostle_n to_o mean_v the_o principal_a and_o immediate_a mediator_n mediator_n mediator_n which_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v assume_v to_o himself_o he_o have_v just_o be_v look_v upon_o by_o all_o good_a christian_n not_o as_o a_o apostle_n of_o christ_n but_o rather_o as_o a_o antichrist_n or_o else_o the_o mediate_a less_o principal_a and_o impropre_a mediator_n which_o he_o must_v mean_v if_o he_o will_v have_v the_o place_n to_o make_v any_o thing_n against_o a_o catholic_a and_o to_o his_o purpose_n and_o such_o certain_o the_o apostle_n both_o may_v be_v and_o be_v and_o yet_o be_v far_o from_o incur_v the_o censure_n of_o a_o antichrist_n since_o s._n john_n be_v doubtlessy_a a_o bishop_n and_o every_o bishop_n if_o we_o believe_v s._n paul_n heb._n 5._o be_v take_v from_o among_o man_n and_o be_v ordain_v for_o man_n in_o thing_n pertain_v to_o god_n that_o he_o may_v offer_v both_o gift_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n which_o be_v to_o be_v some_o kind_n of_o mediator_n or_o advocate_n represent_v their_o misery_n plead_v their_o cause_n and_o mediate_a their_o reconcilement_n to_o god_n by_o christ_n the_o only_a proper_o true_a mediator_n of_o redemption_n in_o this_o kind_n of_o mediation_n be_v the_o priest_n employ_v say_v joel_n c._n 2._o between_o the_o porch_n and_o the_o altar_n shall_v the_o priest_n the_o minister_n of_o our_o lord_n weep_v and_o shall_v say_v spare_z o_o lord_n spare_v thy_o people_n and_o give_v not_o thy_o inheritance_n into_o reproach_n that_o the_o heathen_n shall_v rule_v over_o they_o and_o thus_o final_o conclude_v s._n aug._n in_o this_o place_n do_v all_o christian_a man_n commend_v themselves_o mutual_o to_o one_o another_o prayer_n so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o speak_v against_o mediate_a in_o this_o second_o sense_n or_o consequent_o from_o apprehend_v that_o derogatory_n to_o christ_n our_o prime_a mediator_n i_o answer_v second_o that_o here_o again_o be_v a_o whole_a clause_n leave_v out_o whence_o the_o clear_n of_o the_o difficulty_n be_v to_o be_v demand_v to_o wit_n as_o parmenianus_n in_o a_o certain_a place_n put_v a_o bishop_n mediator_n betwixt_o the_o people_n and_o god_n and_o how_o do_v parmenianus_n put_v bishop_n mediator_n &_o c_o marry_v as_o purifier_n and_o justifier_n of_o man_n by_o their_o own_o virtue_n and_o justice_n since_o they_o the_o donatist_n allow_v virtue_n and_o effect_n to_o the_o sacrament_n and_o sacrifice_n only_o according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o minister_n or_o offerer_n which_o be_v indeed_o to_o assume_v to_o themselves_o the_o proper_a mediation_n of_o christ_n jesus_n who_o only_o of_o himself_o be_v able_a to_o appease_v god_n wrath_n against_o sin_n as_o be_v our_o principal_n immediate_a primarie_a mediator_n and_o indeed_o our_o only_a mediator_n of_o redemption_n who_o by_o the_o right_n of_o his_o own_o merit_n obtayne_v grace_n forus_fw-la the_o other_o only_o by_o he_o and_o by_o his_o merit_n such_o a_o mediator_n it_o be_v manifest_a s._n aug._n speak_v of_o in_o this_o place_n and_o such_o we_o admit_v none_o but_o christ_n alone_a who_o speak_v against_o the_o pride_n of_o the_o donatist_n which_o forsooth_o will_v have_v no_o spott_n or_o vice_n to_o be_v among_o they_o or_o their_o fellow_n as_o say_v s._n augustine_n in_o the_o chap._n immediate_o before_o which_o be_v a_o prerogative_n due_a to_o christ_n alone_o who_o be_v that_o one_o and_o true_a mediator_n for_o who_o none_o pray_v &_o he_o pray_v for_o all_o as_o say_v the_o say_a st._n in_o this_o 8._o chap._n in_o 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