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A53364 A discourse of the unlawfulness of praying to saints and angels being a full answer to a letter of Sabran the Jesuite : wherein the practice of the Church of Rome, in praying to saints and angels is plainly proved to be contrary to the doctrine of Christ and the presented authority by him produc'd, to be either forged or impertinent / by Titus Oates, a presbyter of the Church of England. Oates, Titus, 1649-1705. 1689 (1689) Wing O33; ESTC R38151 88,775 90

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l._n 40._o ●_o for_o if_o p._n 11._o l._n 25._o r._n apostolum_n christi_fw-la &_o non_fw-la sicut_fw-la antichristum_n p._n 12._o l._n 〈◊〉_d r._n mulieres_fw-la ibid._n l._n 38._o r._n filii_fw-la ibid._n l._n 39_o r._n subactas_fw-la p._n 13._o l._n 21._o r._n 〈◊〉_d ibid._n l._n 28._o r._n posteros_fw-la p._n 14._o l._n 35._o r._n affinity_n ibid._n l._n 41._o r._n inde_fw-la p._n 15._o l._n 3._o r._n dixit_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la tibi_fw-la est_fw-la ibid._n l._n 4._o r._n quod_fw-la non_fw-la putaret_fw-la aliquis_fw-la magis_fw-la eximiam_fw-la ibid._n l._n 5._o r._n veluti_fw-la ibid._n l._n 7._o r._n admirati_fw-la delibantur_fw-la p._n 16._o l._n 7._o r._n i_o pray_v p._n 17._o l._n 7._o r._n aliquem_fw-la p._n 19_o l._n 13._o r._n cuique_fw-la ib._n l._n 16._o r._n nymphis_n ib._n l._n 21._o r._n nympha_fw-la p._n 21._o l._n 8._o r._n have_v be_v far_o ib._n l._n 26._o r._n now_o your_o divine_n ib._n l._n 42._o r._n alitèr_fw-la p._n 22._o l._n 33._o r._n 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