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can_v any_o thing_n be_v speak_v more_o abject_a or_o more_o contradictory_n to_o the_o scripture_n and_o father_n than_o this_o can_v hell_n be_v more_o opposite_a to_o heaven_n than_o the_o carnalitie_n of_o this_o apostata_fw-la to_o the_o spiris_fw-la of_o all_o saint_n see_v you_o not_o how_o this_o fellow_n insult_v how_o he_o chafe_v how_o he_o rail_v but_o will_v you_o see_v also_o how_o he_o lie_v how_o he_o falsifi_v how_o he_o slaunder_v for_o luther_n say_v not_o that_o marriage_n in_o comparison_n of_o virginity_n be_v as_o gold_n he_o say_v not_o that_o the_o state_n of_o virginity_n and_o continency_n be_v as_o stink_a dung_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o comparison_n he_o make_v be_v between_o the_o state_n of_o matrimony_n and_o the_o popish_a adcor_n spiritual_a or_o ecclesiastical_a state_n of_o which_o he_o say_v de_fw-la usu_fw-la vel_fw-la abusu_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o use_n or_o abuse_v of_o the_o state_n at_o this_o present_a we_o say_v nothing_o but_o of_o 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where_o of_o the_o high_a priest_n be_v a_o figure_n neither_o be_v the_o city_n of_o refuge_n appoint_v only_o for_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o slaughter_n whether_o it_o be_v willing_o or_o unwillinglie_o commit_v as_o you_o say_v but_o also_o for_o a_o kind_n of_o punishment_n and_o detestation_n of_o manslaughter_n so_o that_o if_o the_o sleaer_fw-mi be_v find_v out_o of_o the_o city_n before_o the_o death_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n the_o avenger_n of_o blood_n may_v kill_v he_o and_o not_o be_v charge_v with_o his_o blood_n where_o you_o refuse_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n death_n in_o the_o death_n 27_o of_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o fly_v to_o the_o fantasy_n of_o the_o jew_n you_o declare_v that_o you_o care_v not_o what_o you_o bring_v so_o you_o may_v obtain_v your_o purpose_n but_o chri_n stian_n divine_v as_o cyrillus_n maximus_n and_o other_o of_o the_o death_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n in_o that_o place_n gather_v deliverance_n by_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n saint_n ambrose_n also_o be_v 2._o clear_a that_o the_o high_a priest_n in_o this_o place_n signify_v jesus_n christ_n and_o confute_v the_o politic_a reason_n by_o you_o rehearse_v out_o of_o r._n mose_n and_o r._n levi_n for_o that_o in_o causis_fw-la paribus_fw-la there_o be_v impar_fw-la eventus_fw-la in_o equal_a cause_n unequal_a end_n for_o the_o high_a priest_n may_v die_v say_v he_o the_o next_o day_n after_o the_o manslayer_n have_v take_v his_o refuge_n again_o he_o add_v that_o christ_n be_v exhort_v omnium_fw-la voluntariorum_fw-la &_o accidentium_fw-la delictorum_fw-la void_a of_o all_o offence_n voluntary_a and_o chanceable_a by_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v unwilling_a manslaughter_n to_o be_v a_o offence_n saint_n jerome_n also_o dialog_n advers._n pel._n lib._n 1._o be_v plain_a in_o that_o whole_a case_n and_o sin_n of_o ignorance_n and_o that_o he_o which_o be_v flee_v to_o the_o city_n must_v tarry_v until_o the_o high_a priest_n die_v that_o be_v until_o he_o be_v 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man_n tarry_v until_o the_o high_a priest_n die_v yet_o the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n death_n be_v not_o thereby_o take_v away_o who_o be_v blood_n cleanse_v we_o from_o all_o sin_n voluntary_a or_o unuoluntarie_a the_o last_o fault_n of_o the_o definition_n be_v that_o the_o jesuite_n acknowledge_v not_o the_o sin_n of_o ignorance_n you_o answer_v they_o do_v of_o that_o ignorance_n whereof_o a_o man_n himself_o be_v the_o cause_n but_o not_o of_o that_o ignorance_n which_o the_o schoolman_n call_v invincible_a which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o doer_n power_n to_o avoid_v nor_o he_o fall_v into_o it_o by_o his_o own_o default_n as_o in_o the_o example_n of_o the_o queen_n subject_n be_v in_o his_o prince_n affair_n in_o india_n and_o command_v by_o proclamation_n in_o westminster_n to_o appear_v there_o at_o a_o certain_a day_n in_o which_o cause_n his_o absence_n be_v excuse_v by_o invincible_a ignorance_n this_o case_n grant_v between_o the_o prince_n and_o his_o subject_n proove_v 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