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the_o substance_n be_v not_o convert_v which_o he_o do_v express_o confute_v in_o the_o 13._o chapter_n of_o his_o three_o book_n and_o cit_v durand_n upon_o the_o 4._o book_n of_o sentence_n dist_n 11._o q._n 3._o here_o will_v our_o master_n and_o commissioner_n have_v refer_v the_o judgement_n as_o they_o have_v do_v with_o the_o former_a confess_v that_o the_o whole_a question_n deserve_v to_o be_v read_v that_o it_o may_v be_v judge_v by_o the_o course_n thereof_o but_o then_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr found_v himself_o aggrieve_v say_v that_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o they_o to_o dispute_v if_o they_o will_v not_o judge_v sundry_a time_n speak_v to_o the_o king_n to_o appoint_v his_o pleasure_n to_o the_o say_a commissioner_n whereupon_o his_o majesty_n come_v unto_o they_o this_o article_n be_v decide_v and_o the_o lord_n chancellor_n pronounce_v that_o durands_n opposition_n be_v allege_v for_o his_o resolution_n here_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v albeit_o it_o be_v 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â—_o ed._n 3_o p._n 498._o l._n 22._o allege_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n in_o his_o book_n p._n 537._o li._n 31._o where_o he_o examine_v all_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o adversary_n do_v bold_o apply_v to_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n namely_o this_o out_o of_o jeremy_n 15._o istum_fw-la 15._o jerem._n c._n 15._o five_o 1._o si_fw-mi stererint_fw-la moses_n &_o samuel_n coram_fw-la i_o non_fw-la est_fw-la anima_fw-la mea_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la istum_fw-la though_o samuel_n and_o moses_n shall_v stand_v before_o i_o yet_o shall_v not_o my_o affection_n be_v to_o this_o people_n in_o which_o place_n have_v prove_v by_o s._n hâ—erosme_n theodoret_n s._n gregory_n hugo_n cardinal_n yea_o the_o gloss_n itself_o that_o this_o place_n be_v mean_v of_o the_o intercession_n of_o moses_n and_o samuel_n when_o they_o live_v between_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n but_o not_o of_o any_o intercession_n of_o the_o dead_a saint_n 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ingreditur_fw-la cur_n haec_fw-la dico_fw-la quonian_a si_fw-la vigilemus_fw-la non_fw-la egebimus_fw-la aliorum_fw-la
auxilio_fw-la sin_n autem_fw-la dormiamus_fw-la non_fw-la multum_fw-la nobis_fw-la prodest_fw-la aliorum_fw-la auxilium_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la cum_fw-la illo_fw-la perimus_fw-la let_v no_o man_n say_v he_o lull_v himself_o on_o sleep_n let_v no_o man_n be_v slow_a to_o virtue_n for_o that_o be_v a_o sleep_v know_v you_o not_o when_o we_o sleep_v how_o small_a assurance_n we_o have_v how_o easy_a a_o matter_n it_o be_v to_o rob_v we_o and_o contrariwise_o when_o we_o watch_v there_o need_v no_o such_o guard_n when_o we_o sle_v pe_z not_o withstand_v all_o our_o guard_n we_o many_o time_n perish_v we_o bave_v gate_n bar_n boulter_n watchman_n and_o sentinel_n yet_o do_v the_o thief_n sometime_o get_v in_o wherefore_o doeâ—â—_n say_v all_o this_o because_o if_o we_o watch_v we_o shall_v not_o need_v the_o help_n of_o other_o but_o contrariwise_o if_o we_o sleep_v the_o help_n of_o other_o shall_v stand_v we_o in_o small_a steed_n but_o we_o shall_v perish_v therewithal_o of_o other_o say_v he_o in_o general_a and_o what_o mean_v he_o by_o other_o operi_fw-la other_o sequiter_n in_o mediatè_fw-la bonun_n est_fw-la frui_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la precibus_fw-la sed_fw-la eum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quoque_fw-la fuerimus_fw-la intenti_fw-la operi_fw-la je_fw-fr be_v good_a say_v he_o to_o have_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o always_o provide_v that_o ourselves_o be_v attentive_a to_o our_o own_o work_n and_o do_v not_o the_o lord_n of_o plâ—ssis_n say_v as_o much_o not_o to_o depend_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o to_o make_v sure_a our_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a and_o therefore_o with_o what_o conscience_n can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o this_o place_n be_v curtal_v as_o indeed_o our_o master_n the_o commissioner_n do_v not_o so_o judge_v now_o for_o the_o open_n of_o the_o second_o whether_o this_o place_n of_o chrisostom_n do_v commend_v unto_o we_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a saint_n we_o must_v consider_v what_o follow_v mus_fw-la follow_v mox_fw-la imme_n diatè_fw-la et_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la inquit_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la aliorum_fw-la precibus_fw-la cum_fw-la suero_fw-la intentus_fw-la operi_fw-la ne_fw-fr te_fw-fr eo_fw-la redigas_fw-la ut_fw-la opus_fw-la habeas_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la hoc_fw-la volo_fw-la sed_fw-la opâ—s_fw-la semper_fw-la hâ—be_fw-la mus_fw-la si_fw-la sapia_fw-la mus_fw-la and_o what_o need_v i_o say_v he_o aliorum_fw-la precibus_fw-la the_o prayer_n of_o other_o so_o long_o as_o myself_o dâ—e_v labour_n now_o say_v he_o â—ever_o bring_v thyself_o into_o that_o necessity_n neither_o 〈◊〉_d it_o my_o mind_n â—â—ou_n shall_v yet_o if_o we_o be_v wise_a we_o do_v always_o stand_v in_o need_n but_o of_o what_o saint_n of_o the_o dead_a or_o of_o the_o faithful_a that_o live_v sure_o there_o be_v enough_o speak_v of_o that_o neither_o do_v we_o doubt_v but_o the_o saint_n that_o tryu_n nph_n with_o christ_n do_v pray_v for_o the_o church_n milirant_n here_o beneath_o but_o we_o be_v not_o come_v to_o that_o for_o that_o they_o pray_v for_o the_o advauncement_n of_o god_n kingdom_n or_o for_o our_o particular_a necessity_n that_o they_o pray_v according_a to_o their_o charity_n that_o quayl_v not_o or_o that_o we_o may_v in_o faith_n pray_v to_o they_o hane_v no_o foundation_n therefore_o be_v very_o contrary_a question_n howbeit_o here_o we_o shall_v see_v that_o chrisostom_n speak_v or_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n that_o be_v conversant_a among_o we_o ground_v upon_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n of_o who_o say_v he_o we_o stand_v in_o need_n and_o yet_o do_v he_o exhort_v we_o not_o to_o rely_v upon_o they_o eo_fw-la they_o sequitur_fw-la inmediatè_fw-la paulus_n non_fw-la dicebat_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la precibus_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la qui_fw-la precabantur_fw-la non_fw-la erantco_fw-la digni_fw-la imó_n verò_fw-la ne_fw-la pares_fw-la quidem_fw-la et_fw-la tu_fw-la dices_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la precibus_fw-la petrus_n non_fw-la dixit_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la precibus_fw-la oratio_fw-la enim_fw-la inquit_fw-la fiebat_fw-la sine_fw-la intermissione_n ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la pro_fw-la eo_fw-la s._n paul_n say_v he_o say_v not_o what_o need_n i_o prayer_n albeit_o they_o that_o pray_v be_v not_o worthy_a neither_o equal_a with_o he_o yet_o thou_o say_v what_o need_n i_o prayer_n neither_o do_v s._n peter_n likewise_o say_v what_o need_v i_o prayer_n for_o say_v he_o the_o church_n do_v make_v prayer_n for_o he_o without_o intermission_n etc._n etc._n many_o other_o example_n he_o do_v also_o allege_v thus_o far_o then_o for_o the_o saint_n that_o pray_v here_o beneath_o for_o the_o faithful_a desire_v all_o good_a man_n to_o have_v care_n of_o they_o in_o their_o prayer_n which_o say_v he_o be_v of_o efficacy_n with_o god_n but_o how_o join_v with_o our_o own_o with_o the_o duty_n that_o we_o perform_v in_o our_o vocation_n according_a to_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n say_v nobis_fw-la say_v et_fw-fr pa._n 1417._o ex_fw-la 1_o ad_fw-la cor._n cap._n 1._o adiwamtibus_fw-mi &_o vopis_fw-la in_o oratione_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la multis_fw-la personis_fw-la eius_fw-la quâ—in_fw-la nobis_fw-la est_fw-la donationis_fw-la per_fw-la multâ—s_fw-la gratiae_fw-la agantur_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la that_o you_o labour_v together_o in_o prayer_n for_o we_o that_o for_o the_o gift_n bestow_v upon_o we_o for_o many_o thanks_n may_v begve_v by_o many_o person_n for_o us._n neither_o may_v we_o here_o forget_v that_o when_o in_o this_o assistance_n they_o hear_v speak_v of_o live_a saint_n it_o be_v news_n unto_o they_o as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o common_a matter_n both_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o in_o the_o father_n to_o term_v the_o faithful_a saint_n even_o in_o this_o life_n not_o for_o that_o they_o be_v canonize_v by_o the_o pope_n but_o sanctify_v by_o faith_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n yer_z upon_o this_o ignorance_n they_o make_v sundry_a applause_n buâ—d_v the_o he_o not_o here_o speak_v express_o of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v for_o the_o live_n do_v he_o not_o exhort_v the_o faithful_a alive_a to_o invocate_v the_o dead_a to_o rely_v upon_o they_o suffiage_n upon_o their_o passion_n or_o upon_o their_o merit_n etc._n merit_n et_fw-la aliquantò_fw-la post_fw-la ex_fw-la 4._o re._n ca_fw-mi 19_o audi_fw-la deum_fw-la qui_fw-la que_fw-la dicentem_fw-la proteganâ—_n hanc_fw-la civitaâ—em_fw-la prop_n er_fw-mi i_o &_o propter_fw-la david_n seruum_fw-la meum_fw-la sed_fw-la quando_fw-la tempore_fw-la ezechiae_fw-la quierat_fw-la iustus_fw-la etc._n etc._n sure_o say_v he_o god_n say_v i_o will_v protect_v this_o city_n for_o my_o own_o sake_n and_o for_o my_o servant_n david_n sake_n namely_o because_o of_o my_o covenant_n in_o free_a mercy_n that_o i_o have_v make_v with_o david_n and_o with_o his_o seed_n but_o when_o in_o the_o day_n of_o ezechias_n who_o be_v righteous_a again_o filias_fw-la again_o et_fw-la in_o sine_fw-la eiinsden_n pag._n 1413_o audi_fw-la deum_fw-la dicentem_fw-la de_fw-la amice_fw-la jobi_fw-la et_fw-la orabit_fw-la inquit_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la &_o dimittetur_fw-la vobis_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la quidem_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la magnum_fw-la admiserant_fw-la peccatum_fw-la sed_fw-la hic_fw-la ipse_fw-la iustus_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la preces_fw-la tunc_fw-la seruavit_fw-la suos_fw-la amicos_fw-la in_o tempore_fw-la judaico_fw-la non_fw-la potuit_fw-la seruare_fw-la judaeos_fw-la pereunies_n et_fw-la ut_fw-la id_fw-la scias_fw-la audi_fw-la deum_fw-la dicentem_fw-la per_fw-la prophetam_fw-la si_fw-la steteris_fw-la noah_n &_o job_n &_o daniel_n non_fw-la eripient_fw-la filios_fw-la suos_fw-la &_o filias_fw-la and_o job_n say_v the_o lord_n shall_v pray_v for_o you_o namely_o he_o live_v for_o his_o live_a friend_n and_o your_o sin_n shall_v be_v remit_v but_o the_o same_o righteous_a say_v he_o that_o save_v his_o friend_n by_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o jew_n can_v save_v the_o jew_n and_o that_o thou_o may_v be_v the_o better_o inform_v thereof_o hear_v the_o lord_n who_o say_v if_o noah_n job_n and_o daniel_n stand_v before_o i_o etc._n etc._n and_o out_o of_o this_o place_n do_v the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr argue_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o saint_n decease_v but_o by_o that_o which_o follow_v it_o shall_v most_o plain_o appear_v that_o he_o mean_v if_o they_o have_v be_v either_o to_o return_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jeremy_n or_o if_o they_o have_v be_v in_o his_o place_n and_o so_o do_v the_o father_n understand_v it_o chrisostom_n in_o the_o same_o place_n soon_o after_o in_o express_a term_n say_v proficient_a say_v iten_fw-ge p._n 1._o 1414._o si_fw-mi steterit_fw-la mese_z etc._n etc._n qui_fw-la dixit_fw-la si_fw-la demittas_fw-la quidem_fw-la peccatum_fw-la dimitte_n sin_v minus_fw-la i_o quoque_fw-la deal_n si_fw-mi hîc_fw-la ergo_fw-la nunc_fw-la esset_fw-la &_o haec_fw-la diceret_fw-la non_fw-la impetraret_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la rursus_fw-la samuel_n etc._n etc._n si_fw-mi isti_fw-la ergo_fw-la steterint_fw-la nihil_fw-la proficient_a if_o moses_n himself_o say_v
he_o be_v now_o here_o and_o shall_v say_v unto_o i_o for_o the_o people_n as_o heretofore_o if_o thou_o will_v not_o forgive_v they_o blot_v i_o out_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v hear_v also_o if_o samuel_n likewise_o also_o if_o these_o namely_o noah_n job_n and_o daniel_n they_o shall_v not_o prevail_v that_o be_v to_o say_v come_v here_o down_o and_o make_v intercession_n as_o thou_o do_v lest_o thou_o shall_v think_v my_o denial_n unto_o thou_o be_v in_o regard_n of_o thy_o person_n pius_fw-la person_n sequitur_fw-la immediate_a et_fw-la dicit_fw-la de_fw-fr noah_n justus_n perfectus_fw-la in_o generatione_n sva_fw-la et_fw-fr de_fw-fr job._n irreprehensibilis_fw-la iustus_fw-la verus_fw-la pius_fw-la noah_n nevertheless_o say_v he_o and_o job_n and_o daniel_n righteous_a man_n irreprehensible_a full_a of_o godliness_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v to_o say_v saint_n but_o if_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr will_v reply_v but_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v this_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o live_n against_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v sure_o because_o with_o great_a reason_n he_o may_v have_v speak_v that_o of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v which_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o live_n these_o that_o be_v ground_v upon_o commandment_n upon_o example_n &_o upon_o promise_n those_o that_o have_v no_o ground_n at_o all_o because_o also_o the_o abuse_n suppress_v in_o these_o be_v of_o the_o great_a force_n also_o against_o they_o in_o the_o end_n chrisostom_n conclude_v his_o homely_a in_o these_o word_n sectemur_fw-la word_n mox_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la ergo_fw-la scramus_fw-la neque_fw-la preces_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la contemnamus_fw-la neque_fw-la totum_fw-la in_o eas_fw-la coniiciamus_fw-la tum_fw-la ne_fw-la pigri_fw-la simus_fw-la &_o socordes_fw-la temerè_fw-la &_o insidiis_fw-la circumueniamur_fw-la tum_fw-la ne_fw-la a_o magnolucro_fw-la excidamus_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o horte_a mur_fw-la ad_fw-la orandum_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la manus_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la porrigendas_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la virtutem_fw-la sectemur_fw-la and_o therefore_o know_v these_o thing_n let_v we_o not_o contemn_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n neither_o yet_o whole_o rely_v upon_o they_o partly_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v slothful_a and_o suffer_v ourselves_o rash_o to_o be_v entangle_v in_o ambush_n partly_o also_o lest_o we_o shall_v incur_v some_o great_a loss_n namely_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n or_o faithful_a but_o let_v we_o exhort_v they_o to_o pray_v and_o to_o lift_v up_o their_o hand_n for_o we_o where_o note_n let_v we_o exhort_v which_o can_v be_v mean_v but_o of_o the_o live_n and_o ourselves_o also_o ensue_v virtue_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o the_o conclusion_n as_o in_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o faithful_a pray_v for_o s._n paul_n for_o s._n peter_n etc._n etc._n of_o ourselves_o pray_v here_o beneath_o the_o one_o for_o the_o other_o for_o whence_o shall_v the_o conclusion_n grow_v but_o from_o the_o premise_n and_o thus_o how_o far_o be_v he_o from_o exhort_v we_o to_o call_v upon_o the_o saint_n decease_v or_o to_o trust_v to_o their_o merit_n have_v our_o master_n the_o commissioner_n have_v time_n to_o have_v read_v over_o the_o whole_a place_n at_o length_n as_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n do_v most_o earnest_o request_v will_v they_o have_v stay_v upon_o that_o which_o the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr do_v urge_v 1414._o urge_v in_o princi_fw-la pâ—â—_n 1414._o job_n in_o tempore_fw-la judaico_fw-la non_fw-la potuit_fw-la seruare_fw-la judaeos_fw-la pereuntes_fw-la job_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o jew_n can_v not_o save_v the_o jew_n that_o perish_v will_v they_o not_o by_o that_o which_o follow_v have_v note_v that_o he_o alude_v to_o the_o place_n of_o jeremy_n if_o noah_n daniel_n and_o job_n stand_v afore_o i_o etc._n etc._n si_fw-mi steterint_fw-la noah_n daniel_n &_o job_n etc._n etc._n will_v they_o not_o have_v perceive_v that_o sisteterint_fw-la signify_v if_o they_o be_v in_o place_n where_o thou_o be_v o_o jeremy_n when_o he_o say_v sisteterit_n moses_n primus_fw-la legislator_n etc._n etc._n again_o sihic_a ergomure_n esset_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la sirursus_fw-la samuel_n etc._n etc._n if_o moses_n the_o first_o lawgiver_n etc._n etc._n if_o be_v be_v now_o lecre_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o again_o samuel_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o place_n where_o thou_o be_v and_o so_o consequent_o will_v they_o have_v judge_v that_o chrisostom_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v of_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n decease_v the_o four_o place_n out_o of_o chrisostom_n upon_o matthew_n now_o follow_v another_o of_o the_o like_a nature_n 39_o liu._n 3_o de_fw-fr euchar_n c._n 13._o adit_fw-la 1._o pa._n 574._o l._n 16._o edi_fw-la 2_o p._n 617._o l._n 1._o edi_fw-la 3_o p._n 507._o l._n 39_o take_v out_o of_o the_o page_n 574._o line_n 16._o where_o the_o lord_n of_o plesiâ—s_n say_v as_o follow_v chrisostom_n seem_v to_o have_v task_v himself_o to_o beat_v down_o this_o abuse_n so_o careful_a be_v he_o to_o undermine_v the_o foundation_n upon_o every_o occasion_n namely_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n decease_v found_v upon_o the_o pretend_a merit_n of_o other_o he_o perceave_v say_v he_o that_o the_o people_n trust_v more_o to_o the_o help_n of_o other_o man_n prayer_n then_o to_o the_o amendment_n of_o their_o own_o life_n and_o therefore_o fight_v against_o this_o opinion_n namely_o to_o depend_v upon_o any_o other_o whosoever_o but_o say_v chrisostom_n we_o have_v much_o more_o assurance_n through_o our_o own_o prayer_n then_o through_o the_o prayer_n of_o other_o neither_o do_v god_n so_o soon_o grant_v our_o salvation_n at_o other_o entreaty_n as_o at_o our_o own_o for_o so_o take_v he_o compassion_n of_o the_o woman_n of_o chanaan_n give_v faith_n to_o the_o adultress_n and_o paradise_n to_o the_o thief_n and_o thereto_o never_o entreat_v at_o the_o intercession_n of_o either_o advocate_n or_o mediator_n against_o this_o place_n the_o lord_n of_o eureux_fw-fr propound_a falsehood_n by_o omission_n namely_o because_o the_o lord_n of_o plessas_n have_v omit_v these_o word_n follow_v mandeâ—â—â—_n follow_v chrian_a mat._n hom_n â—_o pag._n 59_o edit_n basi_fw-la apud_fw-la froben_n 1558._o et_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la eo_fw-la dicimus_fw-la ut_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la esse_fw-la sanctis_fw-la negemus_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-la torpeamus_fw-la neve_o supini_fw-la ipsi_fw-la &_o dormieate_n alus_fw-la tatum_fw-la mo_z do_fw-mi nostra_fw-la curanda_fw-la mandeâ—â—â—_n neither_o â—â—e_v we_o speak_v this_o to_o deny_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v to_o saint_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v negligent_a or_o slothful_a and_o so_o fâ—lling_v on_o sleep_n or_o be_v benumb_v we_o shall_v commit_v the_o manage_n of_o our_o affair_n to_o other_o where_o we_o be_v to_o note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o the_o copy_n which_o chemnicius_n cit_v have_v these_o word_n non_fw-la quod_fw-la negemus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la orare_fw-la debere_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la not_o that_o we_o deny_v that_o the_o saint_n shall_v pray_v for_o sinner_n where_o by_o the_o sense_n shall_v differ_v very_o much_o &_o in_o this_o case_n he_o will_v not_o have_v make_v such_o haste_n to_o tax_v he_o for_o omission_n because_o he_o shall_v have_v gain_v nothing_o thereby_o but_o take_v law_n of_o the_o common_a lesson_n either_o s._n chrisostom_n in_o this_o homely_a speak_v of_o pray_v to_o the_o live_a saint_n to_o remember_v we_o in_o their_o prayer_n either_o else_o of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v if_o of_o these_o then_o do_v the_o l._n of_o plessis_n confess_v the_o omission_n and_o grant_v that_o he_o have_v do_v amiss_o if_o of_o the_o other_o what_o wrong_n have_v he_o do_v since_o they_o both_o agree_v for_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n in_o the_o matter_n but_o sure_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a by_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o all_o the_o homely_a and_o by_o the_o example_n produce_v that_o he_o there_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o holy_a man_n that_o make_v intercession_n here_o beneath_o in_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o his_o people_n and_o of_o the_o faithful_a pray_v each_o for_o other_o in_o this_o homely_a do_v s_n chrisostom_n handle_v this_o point_n that_o even_o our_o lord_n brother_n believe_v not_o in_o he_o and_o thereout_o gather_v this_o conclusion_n that_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v any_o familiarity_n either_o of_o country_n family_n or_o parentage_n with_o the_o lord_n unless_o we_o labour_v to_o conform_v ourselves_o unto_o he_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v collocet_fw-la say_v ibid._n p._n 54._o nemo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la desperet_fw-la etc._n etc._n neevila_fw-la in_o re_fw-la alia_fw-la spem_fw-la svam_fw-la quam_fw-la post_fw-la dei_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la in_o vertute_fw-la sva_fw-la collocet_fw-la let_v no_o man_n settle_v his_o hope_n in_o any_o thing_n but_o next_o unto_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n in_o his_o own_o virtue_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o allege_v homo_fw-la allege_v et_fw-la mox_fw-la no_o &_o
haerony_n in_o ezechiele_n lib._n 4._o c._n 14._o ex_fw-la editione_n christ_n plantini_n 1578._o quod_fw-la si_fw-la in_o aliquo_fw-la fiducia_fw-la est_fw-la insolo_fw-la domino_fw-la considamus_fw-la maledictus_fw-la n_z omnis_fw-la homo_fw-la qui_fw-la spen_n habet_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la quam_fw-la vis_fw-la sancti_fw-la sint_fw-la quamuis_fw-la prophet_n legimus_fw-la nolite_fw-la considere_fw-la in_o homimbus_fw-la et_fw-la iterum_fw-la bo_o num_fw-la est_fw-la considere_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la quam_fw-la considere_fw-la in_o principibus_fw-la non_fw-fr in_o princip_fw-mi ibus_fw-la tantum_fw-la scaeculi_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o in_fw-la principibus_fw-la eccleasiarum_fw-la qui_fw-la svas_fw-la tanium_fw-la aoimas_fw-la si_fw-la iusti_fw-la suerint_fw-la liberabunâ—_n filios_fw-la autem_fw-la ac_fw-la silias_fw-la quos_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la genuetint_n si_fw-la fuerint_fw-la negligentes_fw-la saivare_fw-la non_fw-la poterunt_fw-la if_o trust_n say_v he_o be_v to_o be_v repose_v in_o any_o let_v we_o repose_v our_o trust_n in_o one_o only_a god_n for_o curse_a be_v the_o man_n that_o trust_v in_o man_n be_v they_o saint_n be_v they_o prophet_n we_o must_v not_o trust_v principtbus_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la in_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o church_n who_o albeit_o they_o be_v righteous_a shall_v deliver_v but_o their_o own_o soul_n not_o the_o soul_n of_o their_o child_n against_o this_o place_n also_o the_o l._n of_o eureux_fw-fr plead_v omission_n because_o these_o word_n sinegligentes_fw-la fuerint_fw-la if_o they_o be_v negligent_a be_v omit_v which_o the_o l._n of_o plessis_n consess_v to_o be_v true_a as_o he_o will_v always_o do_v where_o like_a matter_n fail_v our_o not_o of_o any_o bad_a intent_n for_o what_o shall_v he_o get_v by_o it_o but_o because_o as_o it_o seem_v he_o rely_v upon_o the_o adversary_n own_o allegation_n for_o in_o their_o ordinary_a gloss_n even_o upon_o this_o very_a place_n of_o ezechiel_n this_o place_n be_v allege_v and_o these_o very_a word_n omit_v and_o as_o we_o may_v well_o think_v without_o fraud_n genuerunt_fw-la fraud_n hierâ—ny_n in_o glossa_fw-la ordinaria_fw-la â—â—â—duni_fw-la 159â—_n in_o illuel_a ezecâ—ielis_fw-la c._n 1â—_n non_fw-la uberabunt_fw-la filâ—â—â—evaefivas_fw-la &_o c._n â—onum_fw-la esâ—ce_fw-la fidere_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la quam_fw-la confidere_fw-la in_o principibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n non_fw-la seculâ—_fw-la tantum_fw-la sed_fw-la 〈…〉_o iusti_fw-la ruerint_fw-la tantum_fw-la animas_fw-la svas_fw-la liberabunâ—_n non_fw-la finos_fw-la vel_fw-la fiâ—as_fw-la quos_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la genuerunt_fw-la it_o be_v good_a say_v he_o to_o trust_v in_o the_o lord_n rather_o than_o to_o trust_v in_o prince_n not_o of_o the_o world_n only_o but_o even_o of_o the_o church_n who_o albeit_o they_o be_v righteous_a shall_v deliver_v but_o their_o own_o soul_n not_o their_o son_n nor_o their_o daughter_n who_o they_o have_v beget_v in_o the_o church_n also_o this_o place_n of_o 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