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christ_n blood_n only_o r._n i_o see_v that_o clear_o c._n then_o i_o say_v these_o man_n may_v well_o die_v wâ—th_v the_o name_n of_o papists_n but_o they_o die_v not_o with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n for_o they_o renounce_v all_o merit_n both_o their_o own_o and_o any_o other_o and_o only_o rest_v upon_o the_o merit_n of_o christ._n r._n but_o what_o will_v you_o say_v of_o they_o who_o have_v die_v with_o all_o the_o opinion_n of_o papistry_n c._n i_o will_v answer_v that_o as_o cyprian_n answer_v the_o like_a when_o it_o be_v demand_v of_o he_o a_o damnatâ—_n sunt_fw-la maiores_fw-la nostri_fw-la qui_fw-la hunâ—_n vel_fw-la illum_fw-la articulum_fw-la non_fw-la intellexerunt_fw-la be_v all_o our_o father_n damn_a who_o understand_v not_o this_o or_o that_o article_n of_o faith_n he_o answer_v