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A04541 An inquirie and ansvver of Thomas VVhite his discoverie of Brovvnisme. By Francis Iohnson Pastor of the exiled English Church at Amsterdam in Holland Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618.; White, Thomas, fl. 1605. Discoverie of Brownisme: or a brief declaration of some of the errors and abhominations daily practiced and increased among the English company of the seperation remayning for the present at Amsterdam in Holland. 1606 (1606) STC 14662; ESTC S119435 86,205 110

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dagger_n etc._n etc._n now_o whereas_o it_o have_v be_v object_v that_o they_o refuse_v not_o simple_o to_o come_v that_o charity_n will_v have_v take_v thing_n in_o the_o best_a part_n that_o the_o church_n may_v have_v appoint_v they_o another_o day_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v also_o grant_v that_o these_o and_o all_o such_o thing_n shall_v have_v be_v due_o weigh_v afore_o the_o censure_n have_v be_v execute_v and_o that_o whatsoever_o error_n be_v commit_v therein_o be_v always_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v yet_o for_o the_o reason_n before_o allege_a the_o censure_n be_v deem_v to_o be_v just_a and_o not_o to_o be_v recall_v and_o for_o those_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o withstand_v their_o receive_n in_o again_o even_o this_o show_v that_o there_o be_v then_o among_o themselves_o which_o think_v the_o excommunication_n be_v not_o to_o be_v revoke_v yet_o be_v not_o they_o therefore_o excommunicate_v as_o he_o say_v but_o be_v earnest_o exhort_v to_o rest_v in_o their_o difference_n of_o 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for_o th●_n worship_n of_o god_n as_o also_o mainteyn_v that_o that_o only_o be_v not_o to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n which_o god_n himself_o have_v command_v these_o be_v other_o thing_n then_o only_o hear_v the_o word_n preach_v as_o this_o proctor_n for_o excommunicate_n object_v again_o and_o again_o in_o his_o libel_n and_o both_o the_o teacher_n and_o myself_o tell_v he_o aforehand_o what_o will_v follow_v if_o he_o join_v with_o the_o dutch_a in_o these_o corruption_n aforesaid_a which_o m._n sl._n himself_o know_v to_o be_v true_a as_o he_o do_v also_o that_o the_o other_o matter_n here_o intimate_v be_v about_o their_o temple_n whither_o he_o be_v to_o bring_v the_o scholar_n to_o the_o public_a worship_n concern_v which_o there_o be_v then_o some_o diversity_n of_o judgement_n and_o himself_o affirm_v that_o he_o have_v always_o hold_v it_o lawful_a to_o hear_v in_o those_o place_n &_o so_o have_v occasion_n before_o practise_v after_o he_o be_v come_v to_o 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