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A04541 An inquirie and ansvver of Thomas VVhite his discoverie of Brovvnisme. By Francis Iohnson Pastor of the exiled English Church at Amsterdam in Holland Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618.; White, Thomas, fl. 1605. Discoverie of Brownisme: or a brief declaration of some of the errors and abhominations daily practiced and increased among the English company of the seperation remayning for the present at Amsterdam in Holland. 1606 (1606) STC 14662; ESTC S119435 86,205 110

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In the fourth his bad dealing doth yet further appeare it being a matter wherewith himself is acquainted and yet propoundeth not the case truely as he knoweth it to be VVe have indeed misliked in the Dutch Church not Churches as he speaketh of Amsterdā that consisting of so great a multitude it is but one and yet meeteth in three severall places by meanes whereof the whole Church cannot come together in one the ministers can not together with the flock sanctifie the Lords day the presence or absence of the mēbers of the Church cannot certainly be knowen nor any publick action be rightly performed Which reasons we signifyed to themselves in our dealing with them heretofore On the other side we misliked also that a few people being straungers together in one towne of one language of one profession in religion having not before tyme their peculiar officers should in such case yet divide themselues into severall Churches For which I required example or warrant out of the Scriptures and alledged my self divers reasons about this question And what contrariety now is there in these things being laid together as they ought with their true and due circumstances Such perhaps as the false teachers would pretend against Paul when he circumcised Timothee Act. 16.1.3 and yet would not circumcise Titus but withstood the false brethren that vrged it Gal. 2.3.4.5 The others he speaketh of were himself and some other with him who had left the Church of England and came to dwell here Touching whom seing he pretendeth that they ioyned not to vs for divers disorders amongst vs I wil here advertise the Reader a few things cōcerning them and those also specially out of their own letters which being as their owne children shall also be their Iudges Whē they had left the Church of England as having a● Antichristian Ministery worship confusion c. they first joyned in to a Church in the West parts of England professing the same faith with vs. A while after they came over hither at first communicated with vs but afterward being about twelve or thirteen they ioyned themselues here as a body together to walk in the same faith and way as we do reputing and calling themselves a Church distinct from vs and in their letters to the Church of the West countrey thus inscribed them The Church in Amst. to our bretheren the Church in the West partakers of the same heavenly vocation c. And in the letter wrote thus For our consultatiō resolution thus it is To meet apart by our selves aswell for the redresse of disorders that may arise as also for the administration of the word expecting the blessing of God which hath not chosen vs for our multitude seeing we were the fewest of all others And againe in the same letter for our own estate though our hope to be a body distinct in our countrey vvere yet is not our hope to be a distinct body in a straung countrey frustrated but rather accomplished And afterward againe speaking of vs and themselues they say For the other Churches estate though that acknowledgment of them vvere graunted yet all things considered vvhether God doth not offer vs occasion to increase the number of the Churches and our selves to vvalk together in holynes to the Lord vvho have had better experience one of another then of that Churches estate that by this meanes the adversaries reproches of one Church and flocking therevnto setting vp one head may be stopped is the thing vve pray you to ponder Thus they wrote in a generall letter together And in another of theirs written in particular by this T. White Tho. Pow. We say they through Gods mercy haue our meetings now apart from our bretheren the Church in Amsterdam building vp our selves vvith that small ability that God hath inabed vs vvithall c. as also receiving such members as vve fynd meet and desirous of our fellowship And afterward in the same letter W● haue had one meeting already together vvherein M. W. is ioyned Consider that vvhich is vvritten Exo. 7. ● and pray vvith vs that the Lord vvould s●nd the Northvvynd and the Southvvynd the one cold the other hote Luk 12.55 that is the liuely graces of his spirit in the preaching of his Law and Gospell to blow vp that our garden may be fruitfull Cant. 4.16 but not an Eastvvynd vvhich vvithered Ionas gourd Ion 4. Thus wrote they then of themselves By which may appear both what they intended and for what They intended to be a severall Church from vs though they were but a few and of the same faith living straungers together in the same towne c. And the cause why they did it That they might redresse disorders among themselves that they might be a distinct body in a straung countrey as they purposed in our native countrey before they came over hither that they might encrease the number of Churches that they might stop the adversaries reproches of one Church and flocking therevnto setting vp one head that they might receive such mēbers as were desirous of their fellowship and that they might also themselves be a garden fruitfull c. If these things were so as then they wrote how saith he now in his book that the cause why they would not ioyne to vs was for disorders amongst vs How do his letters and his Libell agree together Specially seing in the same letters at the same tyme they write vs to be their brethrē the Church in Amsterdam of whose estate they had not that experience c. Belike he had forgotten the old saying Mendacem oportet esse memorem A lyer had need have a good memorie And further if it were as he saith now why did they not then so alledg that we might haue insisted therevpon why shrank they from the handling of the question between vs which we would have discussed by the Scriptures had not they refused as they did But if some be not mistaken there was an other cause then any of the aforesaid which they will not make knowen namely that Mr Po. this White might have bene Officers of that Church whereof they had little hope among vs to satisfie their desier Which whether it were so or not themselves know best And howsoever yet with what face can this hypocrite write as he doth that they would not joyn to vs for divers disorders among vs when but even a while after they returned to the Church of England which they knew certainly to have not onely divers disorders but even a multitude of the corruptions of Antichrist the sonne of perdition Well might he write of these things as he did in another letter of his to Mr S. W. Respice finem Look to the end For as they sowed so have they reaped not having the wind of Gods grace to blow vpon them that they might be a fruitfull garden but the worme of Gods judgment to smite them that they might become a withered gourd
doing in regard of Gods requiring but one day in seaven for publick worship and permitting six for labour because of the popish and superstitious observance of these tymes still reteyned and other the like And what though in these things being matters of such nature and question we have differed in judgment Is it any other thing then the Christians in the Primitive Churches at this day in all ages haue ben may be in divers cases subject vnto For the second it is a notable deceitfull vntruth that we have our meetings for worship on their holy dayes For although their Easter and Whitsunday falling alwayes on the Lords day the feast of Ascension of the fift day on the week called Ascension Thursday we haue our publick meetings on those dayes yet it is not at all in respect of their holy dayes but because that weekly we have our meetings on those dayes all the yeare thorow Besides if we observed their holy dayes as much as they do we should have a religious regard of them have our publick metings for worship as they have on Christmasse day the morrow after also on the morrow after Easter and Whitsunday Which dayes together with the former he knoweth they observe and we not Yet shameth he not thus to write as he doth as if his Lords the Prelates had given him a dispensation to lye and calumniate no matter how and that now he is growen so wicked and shameles that he counteth it nothing so to do if thereby he may please his Lords or pleasure himself God thus justly punishing his former hyprocrisie and present apostasy so matching his writing with his walking as it should be an evident testimony in the sight of all how vndeniably his owne collections are true in himself as in his Lords too which so injuriously he would apply vnto vs and how far he is behind the very heathen even Medea her self which said Video meliora proboque Deteriora sequor I see better things approve them but I follow the worse wheras himself after the example of his Patrones though he see better things yet doth not so much as approve them but set himself to oppugne them what he can possibly and for the worse things doth not onely follow them but approve and applaud them most shamefully yea and therevnto bringeth pretended allegation of Scripture as if it were no sinne to take the Name of God in vayne and make the Scriptures serve his owne fancy yea his lyes calumnies For which certainly the Lord will not hold him guiltles And where he pretendeth against vs as if he could declare false and impertinent allegation of Scripture and yet passeth by it vndeclared the Reader observing his purpose and dealing may easily gather that if he thought himself able to do it he wanteth no will therevnto That which he referreth vnto in a book already published will not prove it so much as in part no though himself with all his ayders do joyne withall The point is about the Scriptures alledged by vs against the yearely chaunge of the Elders in this Dutch Church and not continewing in their office according to the doctrine of the Apostles and practise of the Primitive Churches Which Scriptures be these Rom. 12.4.5.6.7.8 1 Cor. 12.11.12 c. Act. 20.17.28 1 Pet. 5.1.2.3.4 and Numb 8.24 c. Where there be many reasons expressed and included plainely disproving the yearely chaunge and dismission aforesaid As namely the authority and work of the Lord making them Overseers of his Church and placing them as members in his body the duties of wayting on their office of feeding the flock cōmitted vnto them of attendance care and watchfulnes therein the account to be given thereof vnto the Lord and the reward to be hoped for from him according to his promise at that day and other the like Neither can any example or reason of sound consequence be shewed frō the Scriptures for warrant of their practise But I need not speak further of this point vnles some would vndertake their defence against vs in the particulars wherein we have had to deale with them Which neyther themselves could performe nor any other would yet so much as attempt for them though some great learned men have had just occasion therevnto if they could have done it As for that he saith of the book aforesaid lying vnanswered we have divers reasons for so leaving it 1. It is but part of a book printed before the rest was finished And to see the whole might be of speciall vse if an answer should be given vnto it 2. Synce the writing thereof it pleased God to visite him with sicknes that he died And seing he is dead we do so leave him forbearing now to write what we could a● is well knowen to many 3. He did not like as this man leave or contrary our generall cause and testimony against the Church of England but held it so himself as of late going into England he was there taken and put in prison for this cause where he died vnder their hands These reasons among other we have of not answering it Being notwithstanding alway ready as there is just and needfull occasion to answer for our selves to defend the trueth and equity of our cause dealing or wherein we haue erred to acknowledg and amend it as we have often signifyed heretofore Now for that wherewith he cōcludeth even false accusations of whole Churches would shew it by comparing the 7. accusation in our letters to Mr Iunius with the practise of the Dutch Churches it is to be observed that the particular corruptions there noted whereof we have advertised the Eldership of this Dutch Church be ele●ē in all so as this enemy graunteth himself ten of them to be true And for the other that one whereof he speaketh namely their yearly chaunge of Elders it also is so true as the Ministers themselves deputed among them to deale with vs knowing best their owne estate practise did never so much as once offer to deny it and their continuall practise if they have not left it of late avowcheth it against all gaynsayers Yet this flatt●rer to speak somewhat for them shameth not to say that is false which is very true like as here before against vs he affirmed those things to be true which are very false A fit servant for his Lords the Prelates with whom it is cōmō in all their dealing against vs to account give out of the truth that it is falsehood and againe of falsehood that it is trueth That in himself and his Masters may be seen verifyed that saying of Plautꝰ here alledged Iustum non iustum non iustum iustum quod vobis placet Let them therfore consider their wayes in their heart and lay their hands on their mouth Els let them know that out of their owne mouth they shal be judged according to those
of his own lippes Of the second head of Th● White his Treatise HItherto of the first ●ead of his 〈…〉 ●hat he saith we cut of from being true Curches in our account all the Churches of Christ that ever have ben since the Apostles dayes or now are y●● and our selue● also His proof of all this he would fetch partly from the description aforesaid partly from a 〈◊〉 Treatise entituled A true description out of the word of God of the visible Church His instances are three 1. of the Chruches that haue ben since the Apostles dayes 2. of the Churches that now are 3. of our selues Touching which omitting that I haue answered before to his former exception which may here agayn be remembred though I repeat it not let the Reader now first obserue and marke it well how he saith the Churches that haue ben since the Apostles dayes and not the Churches that were in their dayes Beli●● 〈…〉 that th● 〈…〉 said cutteth not them of And if not them then not any other at all For that which made them to be true visible Churches doth and must make all other so to be to the end of the world namely the calling of Christ and their mutuall covenant and communion in his Gospell as we haue shewed before out of the Scriptures Wherevpon I reason thus If the description aforesaid cut not of the Primitive Churches planted by the Apostles from being true visible Churches of Christ then doth it not cut of any other which since that tyme haue bene are or shal be to the end of the world But the former is true Therefore the latter The Proposition is vndenyable from the Scriptures and demonstration aforesaid It is one and the same thing that giveth being to all true visible Churches of Chr●●t That which gave being to the Churches of Ierusalem Antioch Rome c. gaue also being to the Churches of Galatia Corinth Ephesus c. notwithstanding the corruptions they fell into And that which then gave being to them giveth being to all that haue ben since or ever shal be The Church is the body of Christ and every one members for their part He is th● 〈◊〉 ●f the body from him doth all the life power thereof p●oceed He is not devided The Assumption is as certa●ne 〈◊〉 will appear● in that the Primitive Churches planted by the Apostles were companies of faithfull people by the word of God called out and separated from the world and the false vvayes thereof gathered and ioyned together in fellovvship of the Gospell by a voluntary profession of the faith and obedience of Christ. This is proved by the Acts of the Apostles and their Epistles throughout And if this man or his Maisters of whome he learned to object against this description do deny it as by their exceptions reasons is implyed may not we justly returne vnto them that which vnjustly they would impute vnto vs and say Are not they then the blasphemers of the Christians and their Churches Or is not this to robbe Christ of his honour Or may not that saying be verifyed of themselues He that despiseth his neighbour is a foole Pro. 11.12 But let vs come to his proof concerning the Churches spoken of by himself Thus he concludeth it If no Church that hath bene since the Apostles dayes or novv is that we read of be separate from all false vvayes in their account then by this description and in tho● 〈…〉 Churches But the former is true Therefore the latter Answ. The whole Sillogisme fayleth as he hath propounded it In the Proposition or first 〈…〉 tha● which in the description is particularly specified and needfull alway to be observed namely to be companies by the word of God called out from the world and false wayes thereof gathered and ioyned together in fellowship of the Gospell c. Wherfore his Proposition is not so vndenyable as h● suppos●th from tha● description And when these particulars which now he hath omitt●d be 〈…〉 to be implyed yet then also by further following of ●he Assumptiō may there be occasion to obserue more concerning it And for the Assuption it self or second part of the Reason it must needs fayle in like maner because of that omitted in the Proposition aforesaid His reason therefore if he would haue reasoned soundly and to the purpose should haue bene framed thus If no Church that hath bene since the Apostles dayes or now is that we read of be in their account by the word of God called out and separated from the world and the false wayes thereof gathered and ioyned together in fellowship of the Gospell by voluntarie profession of the faith and obedience of Christ then by his description and in their account must they be no true Churches But the former is true Therefore the latter Answ. 1. The very propounding of the Reason thus sheweth the weaknes of it 2. And what if we would not be drawen to speak of the Churches since but onely of them that were in the Apostles dayes keeping onely to the word of God and that which is recorded therein If they cannot by it or the example of those Churches disproue our testimony what would it help them or hurt vs if we answered them no further 3. Yet to answer this Reason notwithstanding and to omit the Proposition as is aforesaid I requier proof of the Assumption because all that he hath brought for confirmation of it doth not yet proue it as will appeare by discussing his allegations concerning the Churches he speaketh of 1. that were then 2. that now are 3. and our selues For the first viz the Churches heretofore since the Apostles dayes all that he saith is that we account the very saying of the Lords Prayer as a prayer to be a false way which was vsed from the Apostles age c. Ans. 1. Is this all he can alledge against vs concerning those Churches tymes Others 〈…〉 would perswade they have it by 〈◊〉 also of those w●ite●s that Archbishops Primates Metropolitans Archdeacons stinted formes of prayer the vse of the signe of the crosse and a number of such like things haue ben from the Apostles age Should we therefore believe them herein And how cometh it that this Antiquarie hath never a word of all these for those tymes Is it that he thinketh we hold them not now for false wayes of governing the Church and worshipping the Lord Or is it not in deed because the Hypocrite would not yet be seen to speak for these and would notwithstanding so diss●mble the matter as yet may please all sorts that are against vs 2. To speake of that he alledgeth admitting all he saith here to be true yet is not the Assumption thereby proued For in all true Churches the calling of Christ and the Churches covenant to obey the Gospell bindes them from all errour and false wayes notwithstanding that both the members and the whole body be subject to fall into them from
in the worship of God but saith playnly if the cōmandement Deut. 12. be moral which he cannot deny if he hold it morall for the Images and altars that then no civill vse of them may be had at all much lesse spiritual And yet I suppose he will not deny but Iehu the King of Israel put the house of Baal to a lawfull vse 2 King 10.27 7. The seaventh is that whereas we shewed the Dutch here that they vse a new censure of Suspension which Christ hath not appoynted yet we ourselves suspended M. S. many moneths together before his excōmunication But this he should have proved so to have ben The Dutch suspend their members from the Lords supper and yet admit them to participation of the word and prayer so did not we But the case was thus The said Mat. Sl. having declined from the truth which before he professed with vs to sundry errors of the Dutch here it required many dayes to deale with him and convince him in them all which we were carefull to do Now when some of them being handled he was admonished by the Church to repent and returne to the truth and he notwithstanding obstinately persisted against the voyce of Christ so speaking vnto him there were some of vs who thought it not lawfull to have any more spirituall cōmunion with him when he came to our publik metings Whereabout there b●ing some question and all the particulars being not yet finished it was agreed for the present when he did so come to deale with him about the residue of the poynts yet remaining Which being donne and divers dayes week after week being so imployed for the convincing of him in all the Church did then excōmunicate him as here is said and so he remaineth at this day a man overcome with the love of this world here called his preferment and never a whit too good when he was at the best to be of our fellowship which is in the Gospell of Iesus Christ. For which he that thinketh any too good is himself stark naught 8. For the eight about non residency howsoever he speak of Mr Br. his absence fr●m the Church and this without any leave thereof yet himself knoweth that he with some others of vs was vpon speciall occasion sent by the Church into England and there imployed a long time about that busines Wherein also what good paynes he took with what great carefulnes even this White himself was often a present beholder witnes When he stayed there vpon other occasion he saith it was not so long as here is deceitfully pretended though longer then he or we would have had it and that he could not then possibly do otherwise as things fell out But I will not here insist to speake what may be done in cases of necessitie or speciall occasion or to put difference between factours servants and men agreing together on mutuall conditions nor vpon the difference that is between Ministers of the word and the Deacons and specially the difference between one man having two three or fower benefices as they call them by reason whereof though he be still with some of those Churches yet must he needs be a non resident all his life and between one Church having two three or mo Deacons by meanes whereof though some be absent vpon occasion yet there are other vsually present to performe the duties apperteyning to the office notwithstanding But of these things I will not stand For that which we desier and approve is that he which hath an office should waite on his office Rom. 12.7.8 9. Now followeth the last of his instances but not the least for the lyes and sclanders conteined therein The first particular here spoken of is about this that we blamed in the Dutch Church of this towne that they receive vnrepentant excommunicants to be members of their Church which by this meanes becommeth one body with such as be delivered vnto Sathan But this man had no list to set it downe in our owne words because he hath no love to speak of things as the truth is And if there were no other corruption but this onely in the Church aforesaid let such as are of judgment consider whether we have not just cause to put difference between it the other Churches of these countreyes that stand not in like transgression of which we spake before pag. 25. and whether we which know these things and have had dealing with them thereabout may suffer the members of our Church to joyne with them in this estate in any part of their worship and Ministration be it the preaching of the word or any other whatsoever Yet notwithstanding it is false that he saith we excommunicated our owne members onely for hearing the word preached amongst the Dutch or French for those whome yet we haue cast out hereabout it hath bene partly for their revolting frō the trueth which they have professed with vs to the corruptions of these Churches which declining as they may shew in hearing the word preached among them in such estate so are we accordingly to esteem thereof and partly for other sinnes withall whereinto they have fallen And a most shamelesly it is that he saith we are our selves one body with an excommunicate from the French Church The party whom he intendeth now one of the Elders of our Church was not excommunicated by them but did himself leave them for their corruptions after he had long much dealt with them in all good manner to the vttermost of his power thereabout they persisted therein notwithstanding The next particular here spoken of is about our dislike of them for that they observe daies and times consecrating certaine dayes in the yeare to the Nativitie Resurrection Ascension of Christ c. Which this adversarie himself knoweth we do not though his conscience be so seared as he careth not how he bely vs and abuse the Reader so he may seem to say something against vs. And straunge it is if he were not impudent out of measure that he is not ashamed to say that we observe their holy dayes as much as they do A thing which is false in both the instances which himself giveth hereabout the one being about the shutting of shops the other about our publick meetings for worship on those dayes For towching the first such of vs as shut their shops do it not in respect of religion or with observance of publick worship as they do but partly thinking it to be a thing civill which may be done at the Magistrats appointment seing no spirituall observation is vrged vpon vs withall partly chusing rather so to do then to pay the penalty whereto otherwise they are lyable it being far more then in compasse of the day they could by their labour obteyn Others of vs do on those dayes follow their ordinary labour some have bene called and have answered it before the Magistrates alledging divers reasons of their
dagger c. Now whereas it hath bene objected that they refused not simply to come that charity would have taken things in the best part that the Church might have appointed them another day c. it was also graunted that these and all such things should have bene duly weighed afore the censure had bene executed and that whatsoever errour was committed therin is alway to be acknowledged yet for the reasons before alledged the censure was deemed to be just and not to be recalled And for those he speaketh of that withstood their receiving in againe even this sheweth that there were then among themselves which thought the excommunication was not to be revoked Yet were not they therefore excommunicated as he saith but were earnestly exhorted to rest in their difference of judgement and notwithstanding it peaceably to continew with the Church if it were but till they could vse the advise and help of others for the better clearing of this conttroversy which had so long much troubled thē Yet they would not but left of all communion with the Church and so persisting were for this cause excommunicated Who also afterward vpon acknowledgement of their e●rour therein were received agayne Finally for the reversing agayn of the censure aforesaid who k●oweth not that even the best and wisest men have their second 〈◊〉 thoughts and that in some cases this befell the Prophets Apostles themselves howsoever here he terme it a dallying esteeming others belike by himself who hath so chaunged and rechaunged his faith and profession as if he thought he might dally with religion at his pleasure But the Lord is not mocked As he hath sowed to the flesh so let him look of the flesh to reap corruption For as every man soweth so shall he reap Gal. 6.7.8 2. Of the second instance which is about such as have heard the word preached in the Dutch Church I have spoken before If he had named the divers he speaketh of it might have bene shewed that they were cast out for divers causes As M. Sl. whom onely he nameth in particular was for receiving and maynteyning these errors 1. The baptising of the seed of such as are no mēbers of any visible Church of Christ neyther can be themselves received to the Lords supper in any such Church 2. Read prayer or a set forme of prayers prescribed by men for th● worship of God As also mainteyning that that onely is not to be vs●d in the worship of God which God himself hath commaunded These are other things then onely hearing the word preached as this Proctor for excommunicates objecteth agayne and agayne in his Libell And both the Teacher and my self told him aforehand what would follow if he ioyned with the Dutch in these corruptions aforesaid Which M. Sl. himself knoweth to be true As he doth also that the other matter here intimated was about their Temples whither he was to bring the schollers to the publick worship concerning which there being then some diversity of judgement and himself affirming that he had alwayes held it lawfull to heare in those places so had before practised after he was come to this cause I said as I remember that it should not trouble my self for others I would therein perswade them the best I could But whereas we heard that the Dutch baptized all that were brought vnto them vsed also read prayer in their worship I told him also that if these things being so he should partake with thē therein that thē his case would prove such as we could not keep cōmunion together Yet he went on persisted and so for his receiving and mainteyning of these corruptions among them about baptisme and read prayer he was cast out of the Church By which also this mans dealing and depraving a●ter his maner may here be observed And for the generall of excommunicating such as being of vs have declined to the corruptiōs of these Churches the Law of God requireth that all sinne and sinners be censured without respect of persons And who ever would have blamed such of the Primitive Churches as were free from the errors found in others of them at the same tyme about the resurrection from the dead fornication spirituall and bodily iustification by workes of the Law c. if any of their members declining therevnto they should have excommunicated them for this cause If the particulars noted in this Dutch Church be not errors corruptions why is not that poynt vndertaken to be cleared If they be such why should we not for them accordingly censure our members declining therevnto 3. Of the third which is about the question of Apostasie often spoken of by him who is so notable an Apostate himself I have spoken somewhat before Pag. 34. Now further the Reader is to know that while my self with some other of vs were prisoners in England there fell out question about this matter among the brethren here in these countreyes Whereof knowledge being given vnto vs from hence we wrote a letter vnto them setting downe what our judgment then was about this point the reasons perswading vs therevnto And this is that wherof he speaketh here which we wrote to the Church being absent from it Whereabout some of the brethrē from hence wrote vnto vs a while after how they were contrarie mynded and their reasons thereof Afterward it pleased God so to dispose as we were discharged out of prison and came over hither Being here there was speach and question againe about this matter And some of vs did now consider further about it more being observed out of the Scriptures about this point then at the first had ben And so began the alteration of our iudgment to be such as it is Which was a good while before ever we heard any thing concerning Mr A. So very false it is which here he writeth thereabout And for those that were cast out these things are to be observed 1. Both the poynt in generall and the case in particular was considered For the generall these questions were spoken of whether the Priests being speciall types of Christ the exception out of Ezech. 44. where they are spoken of do yet include all persons tymes offices and conditions c. Also whether even in the tyme of the Law the Levites which were not of the Priests falling to Idolatry and afterward repenting might not againe have and execute the same office function as they had before And in the New Testament whether Iohn Mark at first refused by Paul for his apostasie Act. 15.37.38 was not afterward received by the same Apostle and employed in the Ministerie of the Gospell notwithstanding Col. 4.10.11 c. For the particular it was also considered what the exceptiō was about which is spokē of before Pag. 42. that thēselves could not deny but he was a man very fit for the office in all other respects that he was already in