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A51652 Motives and reasons for dissevering from the Church of Rome and her doctrine wherein after the declaration of his conversion, he openeth divers absurdities practised in that Church, being not matters of report, but such things whereof he was an eye and ear witness / by Chr. Musgrave, after he had lived a Carthusian monk for twenty years. Musgrave, Christopher, fl. 1621 1688 (1688) Wing M3143; ESTC R28845 14,573 39

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