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A51652	Motives and reasons for dissevering from the Church of Rome and her doctrine wherein after the declaration of his conversion, he openeth divers absurdities practised in that Church, being not matters of report, but such things whereof he was an eye and ear witness / by Chr. Musgrave, after he had lived a Carthusian monk for twenty years.	Musgrave, Christopher, fl. 1621	1688 (1688)	Wing M3143; ESTC R28845	14,573	39

Confession did first begin to creep in put it down in his Church and all the Bishops of the East did the like in theirs as being not only a Novelty but also in their Judgments so far from being a sovereign Medicine for Sin as some men hold it that it was found rather to be a Nurse of sin Churches being converted into Stews Confession playing the Pander unto the Priest and his Penitents there to parle and consult I mean under Confession how to effect and practise their carnal Affections and Designs which indeed was the chiefest thing that moved Bishop Nectarius to thrust it out of Constan●inople to prevent such wickedness as by a woful experience of a Gentlewoman that was ravished he ●und to be practised And I can speak upon my own knowledge thus much That I have not noted any thing that hath opened a wider gate or way unto sin than Auricular Confession My Reason is this First that many care not what they do or say think it sufficient be they never so great swearers slanderers or blasphemers or whatsoever actual sins they commit to go once a year to Confession and moreover most Villanies and Conspiracies which are either intended or practised against either Princes or Countries some whereof I could specifie in particular if so it might be well taken are for the most part opened and consulted upon in Confession for Men not daring to open such things out of Confession and being desirous to have advice and direction in them propound such businesses in Confession and then under pretence of confessing their sins they maliciously consult how to effect and practise their sinful purposes And besides that experience which I my self have had of these things in that time that I heard Confessions but only amongst a handful of primest r●ligious Men so reputed amongst whom in their daily Confessions I found continual plotting and practising of Inferiours against their Superiours and such as were in any office and of Superiours against their Inferiours how to quit and rid themselves of such religious Men as they found to be zealous Biel in his Canon lect 77. saith of his time that it was an usual thing for Men and Women to turn their Confessions into Babblings and Curiosities mingling profane talk concerning vile things Now besides these absurdities and notwithstanding that there is no warrant of Scripture for it neither was any use of it in the Primitive Church there be divers and those very Learned that hold it not necessary at all And amongst others Michael Bonon in his Exposition upon the 29 th Psalm saith that seeing Justification is the infusion of Grace whereupon sin is remitted it followeth that Confession is not necessary either for the obtaining of Pardon for our sins or for our Justification for according to the true order of things Confession in time followeth Contrition and therefore seeing Contrition it self is not without Justification the said Justification may be had without Confession of this mind is Cajetan Tom. 3. q. 8. art 4. saying That a man truly contrite and sorrowful for his sins standeth clean in the Judgment of God and is a formed member of the Church Militant And Peter Lumbard in his fourth Book Distinct. 18. and divers others with him hold that the Priest hath no power to forgive sin or to work any spiritual effect by vertue of the Keys which is the Tenent of our Church of England which not disallowing Confession upon just occasion notwithstanding holdeth that the Priest cannot give the penitent any spiritual Grace neither absolve him otherwise then declare the penitent upon his true Contrition to be absolved through the Mercies and Merits of Jesus Christ. This Consideration of the little necessity men have of auricular Confession and likewise of the great Abuses and Absurdities committed under Confession was a great motive to withdraw my Affection from the Church of Rome CHAP. VI. Concerning divers other Points as of Prayer for the Souls in Purgatory of Purgatory it self Tradition and such like MAny other Motives to dislike the Doctrine of the Church of Rome did offer themselves unto the Eyes of my Soul the which I will only briefly set down without any long Discourse lest I should offend the Reader with Prolixity Another Motive did arise from the absurdity of that Tenent of the Church of Rome which teacheth and commandeth to pray for the Souls in Purgatory having no warrant of Scripture for it neither being able to prove by Scripture or by Tradition that there is any Purgatory at all for Baronius in the first Volume of his late written History going about to patronize Prayer for the Souls in Purgatory out of the second Book of Maccabees chap. 12. vers 43. which is Apocrypha he inferreth to prove Purgatory saying that since the Church hath admitted Prayer for the Dead there must of necessity be a Purgatory otherwise it were to no end to pray for the Dead But to warrant this Doctrine either of Purgatory or Prayer for the Dead he hath only this to say Pie creditur traditum esse ab Apostolis that is it is a charitable belief that the Church hath this Doctrine by Tradition from the Apostles And after that I began to reflect upon Tradition especially finding in the fourth Session of the first Councel of Trent chap. 1. that the Church of Rome doth equalize Tradition with Holy Scripture and that Baronius in his late written History is not ashamed to prefer it before Scripture saying Videas quanti ponderis sit ipsa Traditio ut ex ipsa Novi Testamenti scripta omnia Authoritatem acceperint Consider saith he of what force and authority Tradition is seeing that the New Testament is authorized by it And it followeth Traditio fundamentum Scripturarum in eoque istas excellunt quod illae nisi Traditione firmentur non subsistant hae vero etiam sine scriptis suam obtineant firmitatem that is the ground or foundation of Scripture is Tradition and herein doth excell it because Scripture cannot stand without Tradition but Tradition can stand without Scripture Looking upon the Opinion of Ancient Fathers touching this point I found that Basil the Great an Ancient Greek Author writeth to this effect It is necessary and consonant to Reason that every man learn that which is needful out of Scripture both for the fulness of Godliness and lest they be inured to humane Tradition Where out of this one mans Opinion a man may sufficiently gather that Tradition in the Primitive Church was of small Reputation but rather suspected as an Invention to subvert true Religion for when as the Church of Rome began to vary from the Doctrine of the Primitive Church and to bring in these Points of Purgatory Prayer for the Dead Auricular Confession Pardons Plenary Indulgences Praying to Saints Hallowing of Beads Medals Crosses Agnus Deis and such like Fooleries which are meer humane subtil Inventions arising from the avarice and