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A17912 A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1634 (1634) STC 4574; ESTC S117015 174,263 303

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visitation_n describe_v p._n 142_o 143_o w._n widow_n a_o office_n in_o the_o church_n and_o reason_n for_o it_o p._n 6_o god_n have_v prescribe_v a_o perfect_a platform_n how_o he_o will_v be_v worship_v p._n 72_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v be_v worship_v according_a to_o the_o same_o p._n 74._o 75_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n p._n 78_o church_a of_o woman_n unlawful_a and_o reason_n for_o it_o p._n 99_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o only_a mean_n to_o fit_a man_n for_o church-estate_n z._n true_a zeal_n will_v not_o endure_v any_o thing_n of_o antichrist_n p._n 107_o finis_fw-la errata_fw-la for_o eder_n read_v elder_a p._n 9_o lin_v 13._o for_o honest_o read_v honesty_n p._n 14._o lin_v 25._o for_o as_o read_v at_o p._n 28._o lin_v 20._o for_o thelr_v read_v their_o p._n 103._o l._n 23._o for_o nor_o read_v not_o p._n 131._o l._n 2._o for_o hierom_n read_v hieron_n p._n 161._o l._n 29._o for_o number_v 38._o in_o marg_n read_v 61._o after_o arrow_n ag_n br._n p._n 224._o 224._o our_o apology_n mr._n bar._n refutation_n of_o mr._n giffard_n a_o treatise_n of_o the_o minist_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n mr._n robinson_n justification_n of_o separ_fw-la mr._n penry_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o england_n a_o answ_n to_o mr._n stone_n stone_n i_o mean_v only_o in_o the_o point_n of_o separation_n for_o in_o other_o thing_n he_o bathe_v answer_v d_o burg._n full_o and_o lay_v he_o flat_a on_o the_o ground_n ground_n hooker_n eccles_n pol._n pref_o p._n 34._o whitg_n 2._o treat_n c._n 1._o div_o 2._o p._n 81_o sutclif_n treat_v of_o disc_n c._n 15_o p._n 165._o d._n bill_n perpetual_a goverm_n ch_n 15._o p._n 339._o bancr_n suru._n of_o disc_n c._n 33_o p._n 430_o 431_o 432._o loe_o quaerimon_n ecclesiae_fw-la p._n 59_o 60._o answ_n to_o the_o petition_n by_o the_o vice_n chanc._n &_o head_n of_o oxf._n p._n 15._o d._n morton_n d._n burg._n burg._n repl._n to_o d._n mort._n sect._n 14._o p._n 31._o defence_n of_o petition_n to_o the_o k._n p._n 103._o 103._o dayr_n treat_n of_o the_o ch._n p._n 41._o 41._o mr._n nichols_n plea_n of_o the_o innocent_a p._n 33_o 34_o 34_o the_o scurrilous_a libel_n publish_v under_o the_o name_n of_o lawn_n fowler_n bullard_n etc._n etc._n etc._n serm._n on_o rom._n 12._o p._n 65_o 66._o sold._n bar._n abridgm_n p._n 23._o cartw._n catechis_n p._n 315._o 316._o rev._n 16._o 15_o joh._n 17._o chap._n 42._o &_o 43._o 43._o he_o speak_v thus_o by_o false_a minister_n prov._n 14._o 15_o 15_o yet_o we_o believe_v their_o principle_n to_o be_v true_a &_o be_v there_o be_v no_o nonc_n that_o will_v defend_v they_o we_o will_n will_n will_n will_n will_n will_n magis_fw-la veritas_fw-la elucet_fw-la quò_fw-la saepius_fw-la ad_fw-la manum_fw-la venit_fw-la senec._n lib._n de_fw-fr ira_fw-la pag._n 5._o pag._n 232._o necessit_fw-la discip_n 38_o 73_o 74._o offer_n confer_v pag._n 2._o t._n c._n l._n 1._o p._n 22._o &_o l._n 2_o pa._n 3._o &_o p._n 5._o 15._o demonst_a discip_n 46_o mr._n bates_n 27._o informat_fw-la from_o scott_n p._n 28_o 29._o necessity_n discip_n 71._o defen_n ag_n slaund_v of_o bridg._n 127._o form_n ecclesias_fw-la govern_v p._n 123_o 124_o 125_o etc._n etc._n demonst_a discip_n 53_o 54._o inform._n from_o scott_n pag._n 30._o form_n eccles_n govern_v 128_o 129_o etc._n etc._n rom._n 12_o 8_o ●_o cor._n 12_o 28._o 1_o tim._n ●_o 17._o mr._n bate_v 89_o etc._n etc._n demon_n disc_fw-la p._n 56._o inform._n from_o scot._n p._n 13._o eccles_n gover_v p._n ●●9_n m._n bates_n p._n 117._o answ_n to_o bancr_n ser_fw-mi p._n 14._o t._n c._n l._n 1._o 190._o 2._o admo_fw-la p._n 61._o t._n c._n l._n 1._o p_o 190._o disc_n eccles_n 119_o infor._n scott_n 31_o demonst_a discip_n 61._o 62._o etc._n etc._n