A NECESSITIE OF SEPARATION From the Church of England prooved by the Nonconformists Principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. AMES his Fresh Suit against humane ceremonies in the point of Separation only Also Dr. LAITON Mr. DAYREL and Mr. BRADSHAW are here answered wherein they have written against us With a Table in the later end of the principal occurrents in this Treatise By IOHN CANNE Pastor of the ancient English church in Amsterdam Prov. 31. 8. 9. Open thy mouth for the dumbe in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction And plead the cause of the poore and needie Ioh. 13 17. If ye know these things happie are ye if ye doe them Printed in the yeare 1634. To every one that seeketh after the truth in sincerity Salutations THere are extant allready so many bookes in the defence of our cause which never yet received any answer that it hath been in my thoughts a long time not to enter publickly the lists of contention about it with any man but to imploy that smal portion which I have in the knowledg of holy things more peaceably otherwise Not with standing perceiving of late the general fame which was given forth of Dr. Ames his booke and namely in his answer to the point betweene the Nonconformists and us as that it was so learnedly and absolutely done that it gave all men satisfaction the Separatists only excepted and that no man would ever be able to make any sound reply therein vnto it I thought it requisite to take a thorow view thereof which when I had so don and saw the sleightnesse of it to say no worse I conceived with my selfe that this common bruit must need arise either from some ignorant people who cannot judge of things which differ or from such as have mens persons in admiration and so like the shadow will follow them where ever they goe be it right or wrong It is knowne to those which know the controversies betweene the formal Protestants in England and the Reformists that the Principles of the later by the former are said to be the direct and plaine grounds of Separation sundry arguments and reasons they allege for it as the reader may see in their several treatises This thing by the other is not only denyed but withall they proclame themselves the main refuters of the Separatists and doe affirme that they never saw any Prelate to confute their opinions any otherwise then by rayling words But how wel they have confuted us it will appeare in the following dispute unto which I referre the reader Only I thinke good in breefe to give him here a sight of most of their weapons which they draw out vsually against vs and whereby they indeavour to conquer and quel us quite 1. Vile calumniations and bitter scoffes proclaming us to the world to be Schismaticks Brownists Donatists c. and matching us many times with the most notorious Hereticks and blasphemers that they can thinke vpon of purpose to make our persons and profession odious to all men 2. Raysing up many manifest lies untruths gathering together the faylings of some particular persons which had walked with us casting the same as dung in our faces 3. Braggs and boasts of victorie a notable instance for this we have in a certaine preface made to Mr. Hildersh booke on Ioh. 4. the author of it tels his reader there that Mr. Hild. had the best in the controversie betweene him and Mr. Iohnson notwithstanding it is well knowne he never made any reply to that which the other had published against him although he was by divers earnestly desired to doe it and this I write from the report of honest and faithful witnesses who are yet alive and will not I am perswaded willingly relate any thing but the truth 4. Grosse contradictions in seeking to justifie against us the very things which by sound arguments and reasons in their writings against the Hierarchy they prove to be evil and vnlawfull and this we have manifested in the answ to Mr. Bradsh book 5. And in a word falsisications of our positions cōtinual begging of questiōs larg proofs for what was never doubted of but no proving of the main point in questiō either by scriptures reasons or any ancient sound writers These and such like arguments have they used hitherto against vs And it is no marvel that they are such for what better should we exspect from them who seeke to put out that light againe which hath beene by themselves cheifly revealed vnto many I know what I say and have good experiēce of this thing for there is not ten of an hundred which separate from the Church of England but are moved first thereto I speake of outward meanes by the Doctrines of the Nonconformists either in word or writing taught to the people And indeed vpon their grounds how can any one doe lesse then separate if his heart be tender against every sinne seeing they confidently affirme that their ministery worship and discipline is from Antichrist and in their Church are swarmes of Atheists Papists Erroneous Hereticall Sectaries Witches Charmers Murtherers Theeves Adulterers Lyars c. Moreover All Popery say they is poyson the roote stalke and branches and we cannot be said sincerely to have repented of the Idolatry or superstition whereby we or our forefathers have provoked the Lord unlesse we be ashamed of and cast away with detestation all the instruments and monuments of it Againe whosoever partakes in the sinnes of Rome are also under the same curse So that we cannot in any sort communicate with them in their errours unlesse we will beare them company in their destruction also These are their owne testimonies and we know they are true and therefore in obedience to God and care of our pretious soules we have left our vnsanctified standings in their Assemblies and through the Lords mercy to vs doe walke in the holy order of his Gospell although dayly sufferers for it of manifould afflictions Notwithstanding all these things offend us not for we know whom we serve and are most certaine if we watch and doe Christs worke still in his owne way We shall have a sure reward for it at the resurrection of the just And to speake now a word or two vnto such as are commonly stiled Professours of the Gospell whether vnconformable or not The thing truely which I most wish vnto them is tender consciences and that the Lords house and his ordinances may be deare to their soules and that they may be able to deny the profitts and pleasures of this life for if these things be in them and abound my hope is that by their judicious reading-over of this treatise there will follow much reformation When some men take a little Phisick they have their health by it soone restored but if the same and a great deal more be ministred to others of an other
consent of a true Church and such were those of whom Mr. Bradsh speaketh if there be any truth in his relation 5. If some do swerve from some observances which the Law requires yet is not their calling hereby the more true and lawfull for if Monkes and Friars do not keepe sometimes all their rules and orders yet are they notwithstanding the divels and Popes officers even so c. 6. Though their Law intend not such a proper priesthood as was in the Iewish Church nor as in all respects is now under the Romish beast yet this helpes nothing their cause seeing it both tendeth and establisheth such a ministerie as by their owne confession is directly against the word of God 7. Touching their Parsons Vicars Stipe ndaries Chaplins c. wee have prooved from their writings that these names and offices come wholly from the divell and Antichrist and therefore his pleading for Baal is altogether here unusefull as to say All is one kinde of ministery and in this respect they are Parsons and in that respect Vicars c. for as much may a Papist say of their Parsons Vicars c. and as true too If therefore he would have justified these men he should first have manifested that his brethren have notoriously slandred their ministery so have taken quite away their reasons by shewing better and not needlessely to bring in a tale which neither helpes him nor hurts us 8. His conclusion is piâ—tifull for instead of satisfaction he leaves his Reader more doubtfull then before in regard of an exception which he makes thus If they duely execute the same meaning the office of true Pastors now what if they doe not this as indeed they doe not what be they then To this he saith nothing neither will I inferre any thinge but leave it as a Quaere to be answered by him which shall next write in the behalfe of Mr. Bradsh Before I make answer unto the particular things in these pages I will lay downe some generall observations touching the manner of this mans writing both here and in the rest of his booke 1. Haveing nothing with any shew to object like a bold sophister he makes a flat denialls of expressed truths as thus I say it is false I deny it c. as if the weight of an argument were sufficiently removed by empty denials 2. His proofs are allwayes beggarly I sayes or ifs and may be soes and doth not in all his writing either directly or by sound consequence from the scripture confirme any one thing whereof he speaketh 3. Although in the course of his life he made shew to be a great enimy of the Bb. and their traditions yet now against us he standeth to maintaine the vilest abominations in their Churches 4. Such corruptions as the Nonconformists generally have condemned he basely here justifieth and by the same carnall and corrupt reasons which the Prelates use to doe so that his writing is not more against us then against themselves and therefore it concerneth them as much as us to set forth an answer unto it 5. As Mr. Dayr in his booke hath shewed much ignorance and contradiction no lesse hath he great hypocrisie in pleading for such evills as some which knew him doe well know that his judgement of them at least of many of them was wholy otherwise It is true the report goes that he was not the proper author of it but another did it and gott him to father it This may be so and it is probable enough notwithstanding Mr. Brandsh evill is not the lesse if he should suffer any one as the Asse did Balaam to ride upon him for to curse the Israel of God Now to answer the things particularly Answ 1. When we know what those accessarie parts bee which true Pastors and teachers may have of their offices callings and administrations not ordained by Christ we will speak more of that point in the meane time they may doe well to consider that they want not the accessarie only but indeed the substanciall and essenciall parts of true offices c. this they theÌ„selvs doe not barely say but soundly prove to coÌ„fute this Mr. Bradsh hath nothing in all his writing and therefore their owne arguments must needs stand in force untill they doe revoke them and bring better to the contrary 2. Whether the Prelates be ordinarie or extraordinarie ministers it is not material and therefore the distinction is idle and impertinent For if their office and calling be false devilish Antichristian c. as the Nonconformists say we will give Mr. Bradsh leave to place them in what order or degree he will and yet his cause shall be never the better by it but observe howsoever some time he undertakes to justifie their standing yet here by a wile which he useth they are left to shift for themselves 3. He could not prove when he was alive that either the prastise of all the Preists in the Church of Rome in all things was according to that constitution or their constitution according to their practise or either of them answereable to the strict termes of the Law What then might not he therefore conclude any thing generally against the unlawfullnesse of their ministry his wordes import positively no but we are sure yes so will every wise man I think beside himselfe affirm too Notwithstanding his Tenets usually doe lead unto such absurdities 4. He either through ignorance or deceit speakes besides the present question For Mr. Iohns to proove them false ministers mentioneth their calling and entrance according to their Pontisicall now to this he saith nothing but talkes of their practise the which if it should be granted to be otherwise then the Law requires yet it is nothing to the purpose for which he bringeth it Would it not make some men laugh if they should heare one that is accused to be a bastard To maintaine the contrarie by this reason viz. because he doth such duties as those children doe which are borne under wedlock The thing which Mr. Iohnson affirmeth from their owne writing is that their ministerie begotten by the Prelates is illegitimate and false I say those which take their offices and callings from them are bastardly ministers Now marke good reader how handsomly Mr. Bradsh makes an answere to it He cannot prove saith he that the practise of all our ministers is in all things according to the constitution c. What then yet seeing he proves your ministerie by your owne confession to be a Child of the Whore it must needs be still a bastard whether the practise of it be good or evill 5. I doe deny that those administrations which are performed by their Popish Canons and booke of common prayer are the maine principall and essentiall administrations which Christ hath ordained For first these allow of no true Pastors and Teachers 2. Require the Sacraments to be unlawsully administred Lastly command an
idolatrous worship and divellish discipline to be performed and executed in all their congregations In page 46. he sayth that the Prelates may well laugh at Mr. Iohnsons simplicity and sillinesse of wit that thinkes to fright them with such a bugbeare as this c. But may they not much more laugh at the writings which his brethren have published against their Canons service-booke calling the former slavish Ordinances lawlesse perilous Popish wicked damnable Canons shamefull idolls c. the later a devised service the Masse in English c. But what of all this if they will beleeve Mr. Bradsh they need not be frighted with such bugbeares as these For if it should be granted as it is only for reasoning sake that he will doe this that some thinges are in the Canons and booke aforesaid which were never ordained by Christ yet the main principal and essencial administrations which he commaundeth are contayned in them Now how much better had it beene if this mishappen thing had had its mothers womb for the grave or beeing brought out had been ever kept in some hole or darke place where it should never have seen any light nor any mans eyes should ever have looked upon it then to serve in this sort which it doth namelie to strengthen the handes of the wicked greive the hearts of the righteous to discover their owne vile halting double dealing Ans 1. Are the Princes of the earth bound by Gods Lawes to mainetaine the ordinary ministery of your assemblies then have you from time to time shamefully mocked and abused them in craving so earnestly for their aide to have this same quite rooted out and abolished and a right established in the roome and place thereof 2. The Dumb dogs Caterpillers and idle bellies never had a better Proctor then this man to plead for their unlawfull standing For he saith the Magistrate is bound to protect their ministery But how can we beleeve him seeing the Nonconformists teach otherwise and lay downe unanswerable arguments for the same but as for him he gives none at all If any should say He meanes not the bare Readers I answer He makes no distinction nor exception but speakes generally and indefinitely of the ordinary ministery of their Church assemblies Beside the office and calling of these is for nature and kinde the very same which the rest of them have received 3. I doe not so much admire that he makes here some question whether there be any corruption in and about their ministery And that pag. 13. he thinkes needlesse to spend any time in justifying their Canons as I wonder he had not downe right affirmed that there are no faults at all in either of them For any one may see by his worke that he meant not now to tie his conscience short but would make a little bould with it for the present and so he might fetch over a sure blow upon us he cared not though with every stroke he made wounds through the sides of his brethren 4. Seeing he confesseth the idolatrous ministerie of Antichrist is to be abolished It must needs follow then that these scriptures alleaged by Mr. Iohns are neither abused nor prophaned For such is theirs 1. Because their enterance into the ministery is by a Popish and vnlawfull vocation 2. The service which they are enjoyned to doe is idolatrous and Antichristian 3. The manner of performing it is also unlawfull For they are to weare surplusses signe children in Baptisme with the signe of the Crosse kneel in the act of receaving the bread and wine in the Lords supper c. the which things are very idols 4. Touching preaching it is no essencial part of their ministerie For those which neither doe it nor can are yet by their Law as true and Lawfull Ministers as any other among them And all this many Nonconformists of greater note and zeale then ever Mr. Bradsh was have by reason soundly manifested and therefore he hath here shewed the more pride and ignorance thus still to oppose them haveing nothing wherewith to refute their effectual arguments But to use his own phrase a vomit of his coleworts not twise but twise twenty times sodden that is bold I sayes Doth he speake in earnest that the Prelacie in and of it self may stand well enough with the Offices of the Apostles Evangelists Pastors c. Truely I cannot think so and therefore if I should have seene such a passage in their writing against the bb I would have admired at it but seeing it is put forth onelie against the Separatists tush why may it not passe though it be as contrarie to their saying otherwhere as light to darkenesse The author of the Preface before the Fresh suit against humaine Ceremonies saith he cannot abide dawbing Now I professe in all good conscience I never saw to my remembrance such dawbing in any Conformist and to say truth it is a great deale worse And for proofe hereof observe what they write in their writings against the Prelacie The Hierarchicall government cannot consist in a nation with soundnesse of doctrine sincerity of Gods worship holinesse of life the glorious power of Christs government nor with the prosperity and safety of the commonwealth Another saith Not Paul himselfe if he were liveing should be permitted to continue his function if he would not conforme as we are verily perswaded he would not Mr. Vdal Mr. Cartwright Mr. Banes Mr. Bates and many others of them have spoken to the same effect and suffered for this banishment spoyling of their goods yea some of them losse of life See also before in pag. 34 35. 138. It is reported of a certain Thratian by name Leicurgus how imagining that he was hewing downe a vine with his hatchet slew his owne sonne and maymed himselfe Much to this purpose is Mr Bradsh worke for thinking to refute us he quite overthrowes his brethrens cause and his owne too And whether this be not unreasonable let the judicious judge If Dr. Ames had not boasted of this mans booke I would not have touched it because I knew the bowels of it could possible not be opened but it would cause an ill savour to some in regard it containeth most vile and uncleane matter but seeing they are neither affraid to publish such stuffe to the world nor ashamed afterward to glory of it they must give us leave to returne it home to them againe howbeit to their losse discredit too Answ 1 Touching the corrupt shifts which he useth to justifie civil offices in Ecclefiastical persons I will not speak much of it but doe desire the reader to take knowledge that the Nonconform affirme the thing to be utterly unlawfull and give sundry good reasons for it 2. Whereas he saith the same authoritie that permits their ministers to be civill Magistrats doth permit them to be drunkards c. And by the same Law that
their ministers may take vpon them civill Magistracy any true Pastors may take vpon them the same authoritie To this I say in his owne words what a shamelesse man is this to affirme such vntruths for concerning the first he slaundereth the state and in the other he puts the lie on the writings of his brethren which testifie otherwise 3. Whether they be made civil Magistrats by the favour or grace of Princes as he speakes or any other way it is nothing to the purpose seeing the thing in it selfe is every way and alltogether unlawfull 4. When they have proved themselves to be true Pastors Teachers then there will be a fitt place to shew whether the admitting of a civil officeâ— doe change the nature of a Church ministery or no. Here Mr. Bradsh in plaine termes casteth his brethren off and good reason too for he sees that either he must wholy renounce their Principles or conclude with them that their ministery is unlawfull But he tels us that he is not bound to their opinions Well neither I thinke are they to his And now seeing he and they are thus parted let us a little consider whose of their opinions in likelyhood are the truest and best to be embraced Touching the former I mean the Nonconformists to say nothing of their number zeale learning knowledge sufferings for the truth c. In all which they farre exceeded him not onely doe they affirme their ministery to be false but as I have often said and also shewed out of their bookes they prove by good arguments the thing to be so But as for Mr. Bradsh he delivers his opinion upon his owne word and if we will not take that we must have nothing nay truely many times we cannot have his word sor he turnes his tale so often forward and backward as no man can tell where when or how to beleeve him For instance somtime all their ministers are true with him otherwhile they which be qualifyed only such as duly execute their office Thus he is like to one that hath a mad dog by the eare and knowes not whether it be best to hold him or let him goe For Mr. Barrow Mr. Greenwood as we will not bind our consciences to their opinions so neither will we rashly reject the grounds which they have taught and given reasons of unlesse we be able to shew better although Mr. Bradsh hath dealt thus ilfavouredly with his brethren There are fishes name Sepiae as writers report who least they should be taken of their pursuers do cast behinde them abundance of blacke matter and so escape out of sight By such a wile Mr. Bradsh thinkes here to get away from us for with his shifts and trickes he puts quite by the matter in hand But to answer briefely 1. There are many hundred Priests in the Land which have no particular places to serve in Is their ministery therefore unlawfull Indeed he seemes here to grant it as the rest of his brethren doe 2. Seeing not all as he confesseth but some of those that have offices are bound to bee members of true visible Churches I will leave it in this place as a Quaere Whether such as neither are nor by law are bound to be such are true Pastors or no for Mr. Bradsh had so much forecast as to say nothing about this thing howbeit it was the maine point in question 3. He takes it for granted that their Churches are true but brings no proofe for it and except we will give him all this at once there is nothing which he speakes to any purpose in the world But this we cannot give him though he beg it shamefully because the thing is otherwise as their owne writings manifest 4. What if their Priests be not in all points answerable to their lawes are they then members of a false Church indeed either his words cary such a meaning or to me they seeme non sence 5. Have not some in the Church of Rome dispensations to have more cures then one Yes surely now doe these speciall dispensations make the action lawfull such an inference Mr. Bradsh words have or else the man talkes he knowes not what 6. Howsoever the matter be not much whether the Governement which the Bb. excercise in civil and ecclesiasticall cases doe impaire the dignity authority or supremacy of the civill Magistrate seeing the same is unlawfull and Antichristian as we have before prooved Notwithstanding this thing is confidently affirmed of the Nonconformists and they give sundry instances thereof and therefore the boldnesse of this man is notorious that he should dare in this manner still to dawbe up the vile things which his brethren pull downe with both hands Some men in matters of controversie care not as one saith though they loose the peace of conscience so they may gaine their supposed victory If Mr Bradsh in judgement came the nearest as it is reported of all the Nonconformists to the separation surely his soule could have small comfort in this writing it conteining nothing for the most part but what is quite contrary to all their sayings otherwhere To let passe his idle scoffing as imputing it to a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 necessarily attending that pen which undertakes the defence of such a cause In these pages he sheweth himselfe a miserable informer and setler of the consâ—ience for his counsell is much to this effect so a man hold some thing it is no matter what it be nor how ungroundedly taken up to answer his ifs and thoughs and what 's particularly First What if some saith he shall say that our Archbb. and Bb. have the Pastors Office Answere Then they shall speake untruely or else you your selves doe beare false witnesse against them in affirming that they are not Pastors and Teachers neither any true ministers at all in the Church of God 2. What if one hold they are not Pastors but named only so metaphorically as Princes are so called c. Answ This were to hold a thing which is contrarie to their Law and directly against their profession and practise 3. What if one hold that the ministers of our particular congregations are Pastors Answere He hath no reason for it because they have no true calling unto that office neither doe performe the substanciall duties thereof When Dr. Burges stiled himselfe Pastor of Sutton Coldfeild Marke what Dr. Ames writes in answere to it It is saith he such a name or title as by the Prelates rules is not admitted and our booke of ordination acknowledgeth no such Pastors from whence also it is that in our convocation church language we never heare of a Pastor of one Parish alone None of our divines in the Synod of Dort would take to themselves that title though most others did in their subscription D. Andrewes an Archbishop in esteeme censureth this title for a Noveltie 4. What though one hold that our
broken and idolatrie divers wayes committed 4. This robs the Lord of that due worship which he ought to receive from every one 5. There is no direction in the whole scripture either by precept or cōmaunded example for receaving any Sacraments kneeling whereas for receaving with other gestures there is both 6. This is to conforme grosly with the Papists even in an act wherein the life and soule as it were of their idolatrie standeth 7. The primitive Churches for sundry hundred yeares after the Apostles never used to receive the Sacrament kneeling till Pope Honorius afterwardes decreed it Lastly this gesture of kneeling holds no proportion with the cheife end and use of this Sacrament nor with that inward disposition of heart which is then required of us And thus much for their surplusse crosse and kneeling from all which this argument may be framed That worship in which a man cannot possibly communicate without sinne he is bound necessarily to separate frrom but that worship in which these Idols are made and vsed viz. the surplusse crosse and kneeling a man cannot possibly communicate without sinne Therefore from that worship wherein these Idols viz. the surplusse crosse and kneeling are made and vsed a man is bound necessarily to separate The Proposition is certaine and by D. Ames in his Cases of conscience acknowledged Although saith he we may joyne to that Church in which many defects are to be tollerated yet not to that in which we cannot but necessarily partake with sinne The Assumption is assented unto by as Iudicious and Zealous Nonconf as ever held that cause and they have brought good proofes for it First because men must fly from Idols and Idolothites but when they come to worship God after the order of the congregation where these things are practised they doe not fly from them but draw neere unto them 2. Their bare presence argues their approbation and yeelding in shew to ceremonies 3. Though the personall sinnes of the minister doe not hurt the people yet his ministeriall and publicke sinnes doe hurt which he performes from the people to God and so their joyning with him is unlawfull 4. What example can be brought where the holy men of God have communicated with such things The author of the dispute vpon communicating at their confused communions affirmes confidentlie that the sitter is accessary to the sin of the kneeler and he gives many reasons for it whereof we shall have a fit occasion hereafter to speake And now let the reader consider if both parts of the former reason be true as the Nonconformists say whether this one principle of theirs will not justifie a seperation from most of their parish meetings For surelie I thinke not one minister in the land of 500 but makes and vseth ordinarilie those Idols of Rome when their publike service is administred Having ended with their Ceremonies we are next to treat of the worships themselves and because these are divers I will speake therefore of each the more breifly wishing the reader if he desire to know more heerin to iniquire after their bookes Churching of women after childbirth they terme a superstitious service a point of poperie a soolish custome indeed no other then a plaine mocking of God and prophaninge of his name and Religion devised meerelie of men viz. the Papists Moreover to prove it a false and idolatrous worship they give these reasons 1. In the whole forme there is no thanksgiveing at all but a mecre Iewish or Popish purifying and therefore it is a horrible mocking of God to pretend that they give him prayse when there is not a word spoken tending or lookinge that way 2. This thanksgiveing as they cal it is even the very same word for word excepting the title with their purification in poperie the difference is onely in this that the Papists is in Latin and theirs in English 3. Whosoever doth this shewes herselfe either to be a low or Papist 4. The primitive Churches never vsed it neither ought it to be suffered in any wel reformed Church 5 Chauncellours officials c. Are hereby justifyed in their crooked and vnconscionable proceedings 6. This breedeth and nourisheth many superstitious opinions in the simple peoples hearts as that the woman which hath borne a child is vncleane or vnholie contrarie to the Apostles word Who teacheth that godly women are sanctifyed by bearing of children Againe that it is vnlawfull for her vpon necessitie to goe out of her doores before she be Churched that this Churching is a necessarie part of the ministers office c. Touching the Psalme 121. appointed for that purpose they say it is child shlie abused yea the words grealy Prophaned Lastly for their other rites and customes viz. the womans lying in with a white sheet vpon her bed her coming forth must d and vailed as beeing ashamed to looke vp for some folly committed her appointed offering the Clarkes waiting her home and the midwives going by her side forth and back c. These they terme Bables foolish and superstitious things The confirmation of children by laying on of the hands of the Bb. is not say they agreable to the word of God at all But a meere device of man a Popish and peevish superstition brought in by Pope Clement the first in the yeare 310. Who affirmed that he was no Christian which wilfullie left this vndon Pope Melciades came after and affirmed it to be a more worthy Sacrament then the Sacrament of Baptisme To prove this confirmation a wicked and most vile practice these reasons are alleaged of them 1. Because as it is prescribed by their booke it is made a new Sacrement beside those two which Iesus Christ ordained 2 Seeing the gifts of miracles which the Apostles had are ceased this kind of imposition of hands which was taken vp at first from an Apish imitation thereof must ceasse also 3. Whereas the ministration of Baptisme is permitted to everie hedge Preist minister and deacon the Prelates doe presumptiouslie and damnablie to appropriate this alone to themselves 4. They doe not onely pray over them but impose hands vpon them that by meanes thereof they may receive strength against all the temptations of sin which is to take that powr to them which God never gave them to do a thing wherof they have no promise that any good shall follow Lastlie this displaced chatechising brought in steed thereof vaine toyes and childish ceremonies to the great hurt of the Church Therefore for these reasons it ought to be shut out and have no place in the Church of God The like they speake of their order and rites whereby matrimony is celebrated in their Churches The forme of it is taken out of the masse booke therefore called prettie juggling trash the ring there vsed is generallie reputed a Popish and idolatrous practise and no lesse superstition is there committed in saying
power is of absolute necessity for the Churches of Christ an essentiall property therof and serves not onely for their well beeing but the beeing it selfe for without this there can be no coupling of the parts and members together And so much D. Ames testifyeth Now the assemblies of England were not gathered by any such power but in their first constitution wanted the same and had this false power which is exercised at this day as the Nonconformists doe aknowledge Our Arguments which we have used in this point have been to this effect Every true visible Church hath a power immediately vnder Christ to execute Church Government But the publike congregations of England have not any such power vnder Christ to execute Church Government Therefore they are not true visible churches What they will say to this I know not but hitherto they have either beene silent or answered to no purpose in the world For it is usually their manner to tell us how the Churches in Corinth Pergamus Thyatira c. neglected to execute discipline as though there were no difference betweene omitting to administer the ordinance and the want wholy of it yea and to have an Antichristian Divelish in the roome of it Indeed herein they well resemble children which being not able to read the lesson given them doe skip over and take another easie one So these leave altogether the point in hand which is to prove by Gods word that a true Church may want in it selfe immediate power under Christ to execute Ecclesiasticall Government and may be subject to that which was brought-in by the Romish Beast and talke of a matter which I thinke no man ever denyed It is true some have assayed to prove it but after many thoughts spent about it we have had nothing but wind from them namely of a city wiihout a wall of a vinyard garden Orchard c. Wanting a hedge fence bounds c. And such broken stuffe not worthy of any answere For where doe they read in Scripture that this power which Christ hath given to his Church is compared to a wall hedge c. But rather may be better likened to the power of the body which receives food and whereby excrements are purged and avoyded the want whereof were prodigious in nature neither could the body possiblie subsist and live And here by the way I thinke it convenient to answere breifly vnto some reprochfull passages writen by D. Laiâ—en against the Separatists he accuseth them of strange and vnsound conclusions but names nothing onely from M. Park Polit. Eccles he Englisheth a sillogisme in this manner If Discipline be so necessary and also vnchangable it is lawfull to separate from such Churches as doe not vse it say the Prelats but Discipline is vnchangablie necessary say the Separatist Ergo it is lawfull to separate from such Churches as doe not vse it The minor he grants to be true but denies the Major and to prove it false he gives this reason For want of an integrall part of the whole or of some essentiall part in it selfe though not of the whole is no sufficient ground for separation He might with more credit and good conscience have granted the Major also then sought to refute it by frothy empty and impertinent words for first he speakes as a man most ignorant of the nature of Church power for were he able truely to define it he should see that it is of such necessity as a people cannot constitute themselves in the right order of the Gospell without it as we have before expressed 2. If the Bishops Major as he termes it be wel vnderstood it caries this meaning discipline is so necessary that where it is not there can be no Church ordinances rightly administred no true ministery worship Sacraments Censures c. And it is certainly so and if M. D. have any thing to object against it let him speake out he knowes his liberty 3. If M. D. will but hold vp his words against the light he shall see they have not the face of an answere for let his words be graunted what is this to the necessity of discipline vnlesse he could prove that the same is not so essentiall but a true Church may wholy want it The which thing neither he nor any man is able to prove and therefore he only beggs baselie the matter but proves nothing and therfore for the warme cloathes whereof he speaketh he may even keepe them himself to cover the nakednesse of his Argument I will not here speake of his irreligious phrase comparing the holie way of God to hatching neither of his untruth to say that separatisme was not before B. Whitgift wrote for Ceremonies I think the man knowes better to wit that from false ministers worship c. the Saints have separated before Whit. either wrote or was borne If our practise be otherwise even by the testimonies of the Nonconf let it be manifested If this will not serve the turne let him then take knowledge of what D. Ames saith In the beginning of Queene Elizabeths Reigne there was a Company of honest men that for the Ceremonies refused to joyne with the Parish assemblies at London as appeareth in the examination of Iohn Smith W. Nixson extant in a booke called part of a Register We could prove if there were need in King Edwards Reigne that there were some good Christians which would not communicate with the Parish Assemblies but there is no use hereof seeing we have the word of God to justifie our practise There is one thing more which Mr. Dr. much talkes of and makes it even the burden of his song i. e. that the Bb. are the authors of the Separatists Scisme their practise butteth full vpon the others vnreasonable and vnsound reasoning But what if it appeare that Mr. Dr. Arguments doe lead rather to separation and that he speakes one thing and practiseth another Would not this be a strange sight especially to himselfe Now whether this be so we will here trie by some reasons in his owne mood and figure If the booke of Common-prayer vsed in the assemblies of England be an insectious Leiturgie Romish stuffe a devised service and raked out of 3 Romish Channells it is lawfull to separate from such churches as doe vse it say the Learned but the Booke of Common-prayer vsed in the Assemblies of England is an in sections Leiturgie Romish stuffe a devised service and raked out of 3 Romish Channells saith Mr. Dr. Ergo it is â—awfull to separate from such chuâ—â—hâ—â—â—s doe vse it specially when they continue obstinate and incorrigible in the practise thereof after due dealing and conviction as I suppose Mr. Dr. will freely confesse they have done even after due meanes used both by manie godly Learned from time to time now at last by himself If the ministerie of the church of England be vnlawfull and Antichristian it is lawfull to separate from it
strictest professors do hold the Church of England as it is Nationall Provinciall and Diocessan false howbeit they thinke some particular congregations in the Land to bee true 5. With such weapons as these doe the Papists fight and where they can bring one the others ten to witnesse for them and their Romish superstitions I meane antiquity universality and such like popular reasons whereby they seeke to uphold their cursed Kingdome Lastly it is untruely affirmed that all the Churches of God in the world doe acknowledge the people of England to be a true Church For there are many which have both professed and prooved the contrary Now for his last argument I deny also both parts of it and affirme that neither the mother nor daughters are true Churches the reason which he layeth downe is as the rest sillie and most impertinent to proove the thing for which he brings it The summe and effect of that which hee hath written in five or sixe pages is this that their worship and religion is true because in Q. Maries dayes divers Martyrs professed the same and died in it Answ 1. Here the thing in question is brought for confirmation the Martyrs allowed of their worship be it so what then should hee not yet have prooved the same to be lawfull Yes doubtlesse if hee would have written either according to rule reason or religion 2. If a Papist should suffer death under Heathen or Turkes because he would not denie Christ â—esus wee think he may in some respect be judged a martyr and yet the Romish worship which he professeth remaine still false and idolatrous 3. I desire the Reader to marke how absurdly he speaketh the thing which he undertakes to proove is that their assemblies are true for this he alleageth the Martyrs now to what purpose I can not tell in the world unlesse he meant that there was such vertue and efficacy in their sufferings as the whole Nation thereby was sanctified and made Churches Lastly this reason is one and the same with that which he brought to confirme the second Syllogisme save that for the more authority of it hee addeth the name of the Mâ—rtyrs the insufficiency whereof I have there shewed and thither doe referre the Reader In the conclusion he saith Answer me this one argument and so I end If Mr. Hooper Mr. Bradford with others knowing the corruptions then in the worship and ministery being the same also with ours now notwithstanding this knowledge and not separating were saved then men at this day notwithstanding their knowledge of the corruptions and not separating because of them may likewise be saved But the first is true therefore the second Ans His former reasons were not more false and foolish than this is wicked and profane for first wherefore serves it but in truth to teach men to cast off all care in seeking Gods glorie by an even walking and to doe so much of his will as is sufficient to bring them to heaven and no more thus he counselleth people to be lovers of themselves more than lovers of God yea to love God for themselves and to serve him for a reward onely but let all persons in all places take heede that they follow not this mans advice for if they resolve to doe no more but what they think will serve their turne to be saved they will surely misse of that and for their self love suffer wrath and vengeance eternally 2 Howsoever Iwill not judge another mans servant yet it is more then he or anie mortall man that can infalliblie tell whether Mr. Bradford Mr. Hooper and others were absolutely saved and therefore hee reasoneth still most childishly to prove his matter by things secret and known to God onely 3 When Luther Calvin and others left the Church of Rome might not anie popish priest have said as much to them If Mr. W. Mr. C. with others knowing the corruptions then in worship c. Now I perceive if Mr. Dayr had been in their place he would not have separated from that Synagogue of Satan and to speake the verie truth he could not do it lawfully upon his own groundes 4. That these men knew some corruptions to be in their worship ministrie I grant it but not in that kinde and degree which the Nonconformists since have manifested for if they had certainly known that these things were unlawfull and antichristian and their Church government taken wholly from the Pope I beleeve they would not have joyned in spirituall communion therewith therfore Mr. Dair shamfully abuseth the reader to say the martyrs saw their corruptions and they are the same which they have now whereas he should have proved that they saw them according to the nature of them and as his fellow brethren have since seene them affirmed them to be for unlesse this can be shewed they differ herein asmuch from the martyrs as if one sinned ignorantly aud another against his knowledge and conscience 5. The saintes are taught of God not to be servants of men but to live by their owne faith to presse forward toward the mark and therefore hee sheweth litle skill in the course of religion to sette downe this or that mans practise for a rule to walke by unlesse he had professed himselfe to be a Familist or perfectist and so would make the world beleeve that none could erre which took such for example whom he prescribed to them 6. I cannot tell for what end be propounded this argument for imagin it should be granted him that the Martyrs knew the corruptions of their Church c. and yet were saved and so are many now in England which understand the same what would hee from hence conclude I thinke there is no man on earth that knowes if there be they might doe well at the next impression of his booke to set it in the margin for to cover what they can the mans empty naked and absurd writing Mr. Dayr having shewed his best skill wit and learning to proove their parish assemblies true Churches in his second booke according to his division hee attempteth to confute the description which Mr. Barrow and the Brownists as he maliciously names Gods people have laid downe of a true visible Church and about this point hee writes more then an hundred and fifty pages all the matter whereof leaving out his Battalogies and impertinenr speeches might well have beene written in sixe leaves of papier But it seemes the man wanted no money and therefore would make it up to his reader in Taile what he could not doe in weight forgetting in the meane time the proverbe a little and good and also what the learned use to say The worth of a writing doth not consist in bulke and belly but in the sinewes veines and arteries which with good blood and spirit may be comprehended in a little body But let us see how he confutes us First he layeth downe our definition of a true
Archbb. and Bb. are Commissioners and visitors in causes Ecclesiasticall vnder the King Answ The Magistrate hath no authority from God to set up such Officers which shall take into their hands the rights and priviledges belonging to the whole Church and therefore whereas he attempteth both here and in pag. 35. 36. to justifie the Hierarchicall Government and by this reason viz. because they take it from the King I desire the reader to compare with this base stuffe their former principles and consider whether there be not probable reasons to think that he sinned herein fearefully against his knowledg and conscience But to the point in hand is not here witt to dispute by ifs thoughs Now I am not of Mr. Bradsh merry dispositiō to laugh at anothers fault But truly if a man were so disposed his sillie and childish wordes would give him often occasion enough For suppose a Papist should argue as he doth What if one should hold that our Archbb. and Bb. be Pastors or what c. would not every one that seeth it say there is in it neither ryme nor good reason If therefore he had not meant a meere gulling and mocking of the world he would not have taught men to hold this thing and that or what they would without any reason and ground but have shewed first by the word of God that the opinions were lawfull and good which he counselled them to embrace After this he tells us that some of their Preists and Deacons are Pastors som Teachers but I have proved the contrarie and therfore both now hereafter doe purpose to let his idle repetitions passe onely if I may without offence aske a question of them seeing Mr. Bradsh makes here this distinction and doth oftentimes justifie the whole Clergy by what names or titles soever they be called I would willingly therefore know of what kind their dumb ministery is whether these Sr. Iohns be Pastors or Teachers for if they be true ministers one of these they must be necessarily Mr. Bradsh haveing a great desire to justifie their Deaconrie howbeit he knew that his brethren had condemned it for a false office as they have it in their assemblies demaundeth of us whether Magistrates may not require some things of Teachers not required by the Apostles Answ Yes forsooth but if they require before a man shall be a Teacher that he enter into the ministery by an unsawfull and Popish vocation and shall execute afterwards the same in an idolatrous manner If he in all this doe obey them he must needs therupon become no true minister and such is their cause by their owne confession And therefore the question as he propoundeth it is deceitfull and impertinent Lastly he excuseth their Preists which obey the Bb. what obedience saith he doe they promise to Prelates but onely in things that they shall judge honest and Lawfull and not repugnant to the word of God If this manner of arguing be good what corruptions so abominable but may get contenance Vnder such pretences any Heretick may maintaine the grossest errours which he holds and practiseth But to let passe any further answer I desire the reader to take knowledge that none of the Nonconformists have more effectually condemned their Popish Ceremonies than this man for he hath by many arguments proved that the use of them is very sinfull notwithstanding behold his forehead how in his writing here against us he seeks by flattering speaches to justifie the very practise which he professeth in his writing against the Hierarchie to be unlawful idolatrous antichristian I may well use the words which they speake against the Conformists We abhorre this hypocrisie and leave such temporising vnto those which are content to make themselves the servants of men But it s true as one saith Extremitie drives men vnto hard shifts Here Mr. Bradsh bestirreth himself to prove their ministery good by the Scribes and Pharisees but this example will not helpe him in the least For first howsoever they had new names and in many things were very corrupt yet they sate in Moyses Chaire that is came rightly and Lawfully to the Leviticall and Preistly Offices which they executed in the church of God But their ministers as we have shewed it under their owne hands doe want this true calling and therefore the comparison holds not It is possible that two persons liveing in adultery may in sundry respects be no worse then some which are truely married Is their state therefore one not so and why because the former wanted a right comming together So in this cause in somethings I am perswaded their ministers are not worse thā the Pharisees as in pride covetuousnes hypocrysie persecution of the saints c. yet neverthelesse their standing in respect of the ministery is not as good as the Pharisees because as I said before they have not a true calling thereto which the others had 2. I cannot thinke that Mr. Bradsh should be so ignorant as in this place he makes shew of For his words import that the abilitie which the Pharisees had to expound the Law argued them true ministers But this is false for that and indeed that only which argued their office to be true was the Lords institution in setting the Tribe of Levi apart for the holy administratiōs of which Family were these so many as were imployed in and about the service of the sanctuary 3. If the preaching of the word and administration of the Sacraments be sufficient to argue a true ministery then are not onely many Papists Preists but other vile Heretickes and excommunicates Lawfull Pastors and Teachers for so much they can doe The truth is his arguing is no better then if Ieroboams Preists should thus have pleaded Those Preists that teach Iacob Gods judgements and Israel his Law that put incense before the face of God and burne incense upon his Altar are true Preists But these things doe we therfore we are true Preists If they shall say the assumption is untrue the like say we of their cause 4. Howsoever he often undertakes the defence of all their ministers yet here he leaves the blinde Preists in the ditch And indeed this is the manner usually of them they are so shifting up downe as a man knows not where there home is nor when to find them there for some time the whole Clergie is pleaded for when they are beaten thence then they fly to their best ministers when they cannot defend them any longer then we have an howers talke of their gifts and services Thus as a man that sitteth uneasie is ever stirring to fro till he be out of his place so doe they shift and shift till they be cleane out of their arguments matter If they thinke I speake beyond my compasse let them once pitch and insist upon any one of these grounds without starting joyne issue with us and come to the
comfort and pleasure of so heavenly blessed a husband Answ 1. Though it should be granted that in a true constituted Church some matters incerely Ecclesiastical may be imposed through humane srailty yet this helpeth their cause nothing at all in regard that a false worship an Antichristian Hierarchy or Church Government and unlawfull ministery therefrom derived is imposed upon and by the people slavishly submitted unto 2. Though every humane Ordinance be not of that nature as to make that Church and Ministery false where it is vsed yet some are or else there are no false Churches and Ministers in the world and such humane Ordinances there be many in their Parish Assemblies as from their owne Principles we have shewed 3. Though it were generally granted of all that thoses Churches and Ministeries are to be communicated with all that have some thing in or appertaining to the constitution thereof not instituted by Christ yet it will not thence follow that we may with such as in their constitution were wholy false but such are theirs 4. Grant this that all are not false Churches which doe not or by the Laws of man are not suffered to vse their power Notwithstanding such congregations as doe altogether want this power and stand under that which was taken every part from the Devill Antichrist are certainly false and so not to be communicated with all And this is their present state if they speake truely themselves 5. Admitt that those may be true Pastors who are outwardly by mans Lawes subjected to a superiour Ecclesiastical Officer Yet can it not hence be concluded that their ministers are true seeing neither their Offices calling administrations c. are agreable to the word of God 6. If the Offices of Provincial and Diocesan Bishops be contrarie to the Scripture then necessarily that ministery which is derived from it must be so also And this conclusion the Papists have drawne from the writings of the Conformists If our English Prelates be no true Bishops then surely neither be the Preists or Ministers or Deacons that be ordained by them and so consequently the congregation of England is not the true Church of Christ. Here we have againe much rude scoffing and such crowing to use his owne termes as if he were some cock of the game that hath picked out the eyes and broken the neckes of all that have beene set against him The proposition sayth he is false the Assumption is false the consequence is false But for proofe a man may finde assoon a needle in a bottle of hay as any for the things which he boldly denyeth Moreover the points in controversy which are of greatest weight moment he either puts quite off by a fine trick they need no answer or else answereth to them besides the matter For an instance to this purpose writeth Mr. Iohnson Every true visible Church of Christ or ordinary Assemblie of the faithfull hath by Christs ordinance power in it selfe immediately vnder Christ to elect and ordaine deprive and depose their ministers and to execute all other Ecclesiastical Censures But none of the Parish Assemblies of England have such power Therefore they are not true visible Churches of Christ. Both parts of this reason he proves from their owne writings now marke his reply to it All are not false Churches which doe not vse this power c. And is not this thinke ye wittily answered We say from their Principles that a true Church cannot be without power But their Churches are wholy without it For answere he tels us a true Church mâ—y want the vse of it We say so too But doth it follow because a man in a sound hath not the use for the time of that life which is in him therfore one may be quite without life yet not dead To this effect he reasoneth or else as Paul sayth of som he understood not what he said nor wherof he affirmed but spake evil of the things which he knew not Mr. Bradsh having used all the witt and skill he had to refute the former Reasons in these pag. in a mocking contradiction of Mr. Iohnson he undertakes to prove that the publick ministery of the Church Assemblies of England is true and lawfull I have neither time nor mind to follow him in his vagaries idle repetitions but will set downe in few wordes the summe of his long talke and give answer to it breifly First thus he sayth To have such gifts as Christ ascended to heaven for the worke of his ministery to be outwardly called to that worke by such a Church as professeth the fundamentall points of the Gospell to instruct the people committed to their charge in the Doctrine of the Law and Gospell to administer vnto them the holy Sacraments of Christ and to be their moâ—th in prayer vnto God are all the things essencial appertaining to the office of true Pastors and Teachers Such is the ministery of our assemblies Howsoever I will not contend much with him about the Proposition which is lame to the ground and a farre better might have beene framed breifly thus To have such an office as Christ in his Testament hath given to his Church a lawfull calling and enterance therevnto and a lawfull administration thereof according to the said Testament are all the essencial c. The Assumption is false 1. Their ministers have not the gifts whereof he speaketh and so we have manifested from their owne writings 2. I doe denie that their Bb. of whome they take their ministery are a Church in any sence saving the malignant and therefore if all the rest were granted yet hence would his whole argument like the unwise mans house fall to the ground 3. Though they instruct the people in some Doctrines of the Law and Gospell as doe Papists all other Hereticks notwithstanding the reading of the Servicebooke in forme and manner the celebrating of marriage Churching of women burying of the dead conformity and subscription are more essencial to their ministery more necessarily required by the Lawes of their Church then preaching either of the Law and Gospell is And so much Mr. Bradsh elsewhere affirmeth Those that yeeld to Ceremonies need not preach at all in their Churches except they will no nor doe any other part of divine service if they will maintaine a Curate that will keepe the Ceremonial Law and fairely read or singe the Kinges Service as they call it 4. For the Sacraments they are as they say wickedly mingled and prophaned and wickedly administred Besides if we will beleeve Mr. Bradsh when he speakes out against the Hierarchy they have divers Sacraments which are not of divine institution administred in their Churches viz. the Crosse Ring in marriage Surplesse c. 5. The prayers which they are to make unto God must of absolute necessitie without partiall dispensation or manifest violation of their oath to the Bishops
The great wickednesse of them p. 170. 171. 172. The ministery of England taken wholy from Antichrist p. 11. Proved to be false p. 219. 222. Their manner of making ministers p. 12. 13. 14 What they are for qualification p. 15. 16. and practises p. 21 Men may be unlawfull ministers though never ordained by the Bb. p. 68. 215 Vnlawful ministers not to be communicated with in any thing they doe p 26. Reasons for it p. 27 Conversion of men to God no note of a true ministerie p. 64 The Ministers of England of one constitution p. 56 True ordinary ministery tyed to a particular Assembly p. 10. A roving unsetled false p. 9 Musick in the Church unlawfull p. 111 N. The profession practise of Nonconformists how they differ p. 205. 206 Their Minors and the Conformists Majors lead to separation p. 179. 180 Not so true to their grounds as the Conformists p. 38. 241 O. Oath ex officio why unlawful pag. 140 No Obedience must be yeelded to the Bb. Government p. 148 Five kinds of ordinary Ecclesiastical Offices only belonging to every true Church p. 3. 4 Officers not simply necessary for the publicke administrations in the Church p. 135 The Church may depose her officers p. 130 Offences how to be suppressed in the Church p. 130. 131. and why p. 168 The Officers of the spiritual Courts in England described p. 137. Their places Antichristian p. 1â—8 Brethren out of Office may teach publickly in the Church p. 54 Order and forme required in the collection of all true Churches p. 186 P. Pastors are all equal by Gods institution p. 3 These are wanting in the English Assemblies p. 11 Parsons Vicars c. unlawfull officers p. 44. 45 Parents ought not to bring their children to be Crossed in Baptisme and reasons for it p. 96 Patrons places unlawful p. 242. To be present at Idolatrous worship unlawfull p. 119. 120. And namely where the Ceremonies are used p. 98. 99 Power given to every particular Church p. 257 An essencial property there of p. 149 Preaching of the Gospell no part or property of the ministery in Fngland but a thing casual p. 259 The manner of preaching there p. 248. 249 Neither preaching nor administring the Sacraments argue a true mininistery p. 232 Not enough to be Professours p. 251 Their Preists and Deacons take their ministery from the Prelates and no where else p. 241 They have not the essencial ministery of Pastors and Teachers pag. 214 Prelates why worse then the Papists p. 82 Of Pollution by other mens sinns p. 208. 209 Q. None must be chosen into any office but such as are wel qualifyed for it and reasons thereof pag. 9. 10 13. Questions propounded with request to be answered p. 262. 263 c. R. Reading Preists described p. 38. Their ministery unlawfull and reasons for it p. 40. 41. A sinne to communicate in their ministery p. 42. What service they doe p. 44. The greatest number of the English ministers are such p. 43 Every Officer must be Resident in his place and why p. 10 Rome and England how like in Church Ordinances p. 261 The judgement of the Reformed Churches no good argument to prove the Church of England true by p. 188. 189 S. Sacraments prophanely administered in the church of England p. 105. 172 More Sacraments then Christ ordained administered in their Churches p. 259 Sacraments administred in private houses unlawfull p. 105 Service booke a devised worship and reasons for it p. 80. 81. 82 The Scribes and Pharisees misapplyed to justifie the ministery of England p. 231 Sidemens office unlawfull p. 138 Our separation why p. 196. 207 Lords Supper how abused p. 103. 104 Surplices unlawfull reasons for it p. 94. 95 Scriptures how abused in the Church of England p. 108 T. Toleraticir of sinne in the Church hurtfull and why p. 168 V. Visitation of the sick as used in England Popish p. 112 Bb. Visitation described p. 142 143 W. Widdowes an office in the Church and reasons for it p. 6 God hath prescribed a perfect platform how he wil be worshipped p. 72 Reasons why he should be worshipped according to the same p. 74. 75 The worship of the church of England is contained in the booke of common prayer p. 78 Churching of Women unlawfull and reasons for it p. 99 The word of God the only meanes to fitt men for Church-estate Z. True Zeal will not endure any thing of Antichrists p. 107 FINIS ERRATA For Eder read Elder p. 9. lin 13. For honestly read honesty p. 14. lin 25. For as read at p. 28. lin 20. For thelr read their p. 103. l. 23. For nor read not p. 131. l. 2. For Hierom read Hieron p. 161. l. 29. For number 38. in marg read 61. after Arrow ag Br. p. 224. * Our Apologie Mr. Bar. refutation of Mr. Giffard A treatise of the minist of the Church of England Mr. Robinsons Iustification of Separ Mr. Penry of the ministery of England An answ to Mr. Stone ‡ I mean only in the point of Separation for in other things he bath answered D Burg. fully and laid him flatt on the grouÌ„d ‡ Hooker Eccles Pol. pref p. 34. Whitg 2. Treat c. 1. div 2. p. 81 Sutclif treat of Disc c. 15 p. 165. D. Bils perpetual Goverm ch 15. p. 339. Bancr Surv. of Disc c. 33 p. 430 431 432. Loe Quaerimon Ecclesiae p. 59 60. Answ to the Petition by the Vice Chanc. Heads of Oxf. p. 15. D. Morton D. Burg. ð„ Repl. to D. Mort. Sect. 14. p. 31. Defence of Petition to the K. p. 103. a Dayr Treat of the Ch. p. 41. b Mr. Nichols plea of the innocent p. 33 34 c The scurrulous Libels published under the names of Lawne Fowler Bullard c. ‡ Serm. on Rom. 12. p. 65 66. Sold. Bar. Abridgm p. 23. Cartw. Catechis p. 315. 316. Rev. 16. 15 Ioh. 17. Chap. 42. 43. ‡ he speaks thus by false ministers Prov. 14. 15 ‡ Yet we beleeve their principles to be true is there be no Nonc that will defend them we will ð„ ð„ ð„ ð„ ð„ Magis veritas elucet quò saepius ad manuÌ„ venit Senec. lib. de ira Pag. 5. Pag. 232. Necessit discip 38 73 74. Offer coÌ„fer pag. 2. T. C. l. 1. p. 22. l. 2 pa. 3. p. 5. 15. Demonst discip 46 Mr. Bates 27. Informat froÌ„ Scott p. 28 29. Necessity discip 71. Defen ag Slaund of Bridg. 127. Forme ecclesias govern p. 123 124 125 c. Demonst discip 53 54. Inform. froÌ„ Scott pag. 30. Forme eccles Govern 128 129 c. Rom. 12 8 â— Cor. 12 28. 1 Tim. â— 17. Mr. Bate 89 c. Demons disc p. 56. Inform. from Scot. p. 13. Eccles gover p. â—â—9 M. Bates p. 117. Answ to Bancr ser p. 14. T. C. l. 1. 190. 2. Admo p. 61. T. C. l. 1. p 190. disc Eccles 119 Infor. Scott 31 demonst discip 61. 62. c.