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fire_n etc._n etc._n observation_n expiation_n after_o death_n by_o purge_v fire_n the_o soul_n relayn_v in_o fire_n till_o what_o be_v vicious_a and_o corrupt_a in_o it_o be_v purge_v by_o fire_n s_o chrysostome_n matt._n hom_o 12._o in_o matt._n why_o do_v thou_o after_o the_o death_n of_o thy_o friend_n call_v the_o poor_a together_o why_o do_v thou_o beseech_v the_o priest_n to_o pray_v for_o he_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o your_o reply_n will_v be_v to_o the_o end_n the_o decease_a may_v attain_v to_o repose_v and_o that_o he_o may_v find_v his_o judge_n more_o propitious_a or_o favourable_a etc._n etc._n again_o acts._n hom_o 21._o upon_o the_o acts._n then_o shall_v his_o wife_n with_o confidence_n pray_v to_o or_o petition_v he_o god_n put_v down_o the_o price_n of_o our_o redemption_n for_o he_o by_o how_o much_o he_o be_v more_o subject_a to_o sin_n by_o so_o much_o more_o stand_v be_v in_o need_n of_o alm_n deed_n call_v the_o widow_n and_o tell_v his_o name_n order_n 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unbloudie_a sacrifice_n and_o good_a work_n do_v for_o they_o that_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o those_o who_o die_v from_o among_o they_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a help_n to_o their_o soul_n for_o who_o the_o obsecration_n of_o the_o holy_a and_o dreadful_a sacrifice_n which_o be_v put_v upon_o the_o altar_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o price_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v put_v down_o that_o oblation_n prayer_n alm_n be_v not_o make_v in_o vain_a for_o the_o dead_a the_o priest_n pray_v that_o the_o decease_a may_v find_v his_o judge_n more_o propitious_a that_o god_n will_v become_v propitious_a to_o the_o sin_n not_o only_o of_o the_o live_n but_o also_o of_o the_o dead_a that_o it_o be_v a_o undoubted_a custom_n in_o the_o catholic_a and_o apostolical_a church_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n command_v that_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n shall_v be_v believe_v hold_v teach_v preach_v etc._n etc._n the_o grecian_a fath._n believe_v hold_v teach_v and_o preach_v it_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n accurse_v such_o as_o deny_v that_o after_o we_o have_v receive_v justify_v grace_n there_o remain_v any_o guilt_n of_o tempor_n all_o punishment_n either_o to_o be_v pay_v in_o this_o life_n or_o in_o the_o next_o in_o purgatory_n etc._n etc._n the_o grecian_a fath._n affirm_v that_o such_o as_o be_v in_o purge_v pain_n be_v help_v to_o be_v free_v from_o they_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o faithful_a yet_o live_v to_o wit_n by_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o mass_n prayer_n alm_n and_o other_o work_n of_o piety_n that_o the_o sinner_n which_o die_v be_v not_o always_o send_v to_o hell_n that_o the_o oblation_n and_o distribution_n which_o be_v perform_v for_o the_o dead_a doc_fw-fr not_z à _fw-fr little_a conduce_v even_o to_o such_o as_o die_v in_o great_a sin_n be_v there_o ever_o or_o even_o can_v there_o ever_o be_v imagine_v a_o great_a and_o sweet_a harmony_n upon_o any_o point_n of_o doctrine_n betwixt_o the_o east_n and_o the_o west_n 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