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in_o say_v god_n reward_v good_a work_n chap._n fourteen_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v no_o such_o absolute_a certainty_n of_o salvation_n in_o just_a person_n as_o they_o have_v of_o other_o object_n of_o faith_n express_o and_o direct_o reveal_v by_o god_n informer_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o certainty_n of_o salvation_n have_v cite_v bellarmine_n opinion_n he_o have_v these_o word_n this_o bellarmine_n assign_v and_o this_o be_v enough_o faction_n may_v transport_v a_o man_n to_o wrangle_v for_o more_o but_o when_o once_o they_o join_v issue_n the_o difference_n will_v not_o be_v much_o chap._n xxii_o pag._n 186._o mountagu_n et_fw-la quid_fw-la haec_fw-la ad_fw-la iphicli_n boves_fw-la what_o have_v this_o to_o do_v with_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n whereto_o by_o the_o informer_n it_o be_v consign_v neither_o in_o my_o opinion_n nor_o yet_o in_o bellarmine_n judgement_n do_v certainty_n or_o incertainty_n of_o salvation_n depend_v so_o necessary_o upon_o merit_n 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