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A35827 The journals of all the Parliaments during the reign of Queen Elizabeth both of the House of Lords and House of Commons / collected by Sir Simonds D'Ewes ... Knight and Baronet ; revised and published by Paul Bowes ..., Esq. D'Ewes, Simonds, Sir, 1602-1650.; Bowes, Paul, d. 1702. 1682 (1682) Wing D1250; ESTC R303 1,345,519 734

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