Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	work_n	worship_n	worship_v	542	4	7.9118	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10973	Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor.	Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.	1608 (1608)	STC 21241; ESTC S116109	75,976	132

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adoration_n therefore_o whereas_o harding_n do_v grant_v that_o it_o be_v not_o well_o to_o kneel_v but_o in_o regard_n of_o a_o real_a and_o bodily_a presence_n and_o you_o schismatic_n do_v say_v and_o maintain_v that_o we_o do_v ill_a to_o kneel_v not_o because_o we_o do_v but_o for_o that_o the_o papist_n in_o regard_n of_o a_o certain_a persuasion_n they_o have_v of_o a_o bodily_a and_o real_a presence_n do_v adore_v bread_n and_o wine_n we_o hold_v both_o they_o and_o you_o to_o be_v much_o out_o of_o the_o way_n they_o for_o condemn_v our_o kneel_v because_o it_o be_v not_o in_o adoration_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n you_o for_o condemn_v our_o say_a kneel_v which_o be_v without_o all_o regard_n of_o such_o adoration_n sect_n 12._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v a_o show_n of_o evil_a and_o the_o great_a scandal_n schis_n we_o be_v to_o abhor_v kneel_v pro._n what_o all_o kneel_v schis_n i_o mean_v kneel_v at_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o in_o my_o 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profess_v and_o hold_v that_o use_v it_o a_o site_n as_o we_o use_v it_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n very_o comely_a and_o commendable_a a_o gesture_n as_o papist_n abuse_v it_o most_o horrable_a schis_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o those_o heresy_n only_o but_o also_o because_o it_o be_v the_o show_n of_o the_o great_a evil_n that_o ever_o be_v it_o be_v to_o 22._o be_v abhor_v pro._n those_o evil_n will_v be_v show_v schis_n it_o carry_v a_o show_n first_o of_o idolatry_n in_o worship_v a_o god_n make_v of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n pro._n artolatrie_n be_v the_o evil_a of_o the_o romish_a church_n there_o be_v neither_o that_o evil_a nor_o a_o show_n thereof_o among_o we_o who_o acknowledge_v no_o breaden_a god_n much_o less_o give_v any_o show_n of_o adoration_n unto_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o show_n of_o such_o evil_n we_o condemn_v even_o as_o the_o evil_n itself_o we_o abhor_v you_o have_v be_v answer_v again_o and_o again_o that_o our_o adoration_n in_o kneel_v be_v to_o 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