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A44191 Lord Hollis, his remains being a second letter to a friend, concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament, in the vindication of what he wrote in his first : and in answer to ... The rights of the bishops to judge in capital cases in Parliament, cleared, &c. : it contains likewise part of his intended answer to a second tractate, entituled, The grand question touching the bishops right to vote in Parliament, stated and argued : to which are added Considerations, in answer to the learned author of The grand question, &c., by another hand : and reflections upon some passages in Mr. Hunt's Argument upon that subject, &c., by a third.; Second letter to a friend concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.; Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. Letter of a gentleman to his friend.; Atwood, William, d. 1705? Reflections upon Antidotum Britannicum. 1682 (1682) Wing H2466; ESTC R17318 217,539 444

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coronae_fw-la tenta_fw-la coram_fw-la domino_fw-la e._n rege_fw-la in_o pleno_fw-la parliamento_fw-la svo_fw-la etc._n etc._n mem._n thomas_n de_fw-fr berkeley_n miles_n venit_fw-la coram_fw-la rege_fw-la in_o pleno_fw-la parliamento_fw-la svo_fw-la &_o allocutus_fw-la de_fw-la hoc_fw-la etc._n etc._n about_o the_o murder_n of_o edward_n the_o second_o and_o ask_v how_o he_o will_v be_v try_v ponit_fw-la se_fw-la super_fw-la patriam_fw-la so_o twelve_o knight_n be_v empanel_v who_o do_v acquit_v he_o i_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o this_o as_o a_o trial_n by_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n act_v in_o their_o ordinary_a judicial_a capacity_n there_o be_v some_o other_o court_n in_o those_o time_n in_o time_n of_o parliament_n where_o the_o peer_n probable_o be_v the_o principal_a judge_n but_o then_o be_v add_v to_o they_o some_o great_a officer_n of_o the_o crown_n and_o of_o the_o judge_n of_o westminster-hall_n before_o who_o those_o plea_n of_o the_o crown_n be_v hold_v i_o confess_v 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doubtful_a to_o he_o who_o these_o lord_n be_v whether_o the_o prelate_n or_o the_o lord_n particular_o name_v and_o plusour_n autres_fw-fr signior_n under_o which_o he_o say_v very_o probable_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a may_v be_v comprise_v i_o see_v a_o truth_n can_v come_v clear_o from_o he_o a_o thing_n that_o be_v most_o clear_a he_o make_v it_o doubtful_a and_o one_o thing_n he_o say_v most_o false_o of_o a_o petition_n command_v to_o be_v read_v numb_a 29._o en_fw-fr cest_fw-fr parliament_n per_fw-la les_fw-fr prelate_n &_o signior_n piers_n du_fw-fr parliament_n by_o the_o prelate_n and_o lord_n peer_n of_o parliament_n which_o petition_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v concern_v this_o matter_n which_o be_v most_o false_a for_o that_o which_o be_v say_v numb_a 29._o be_v of_o a_o petition_n and_o write_v of_o error_n present_v by_o william_n de_fw-fr montague_n earl_n of_o salisbury_n which_o be_v then_o read_v and_o nothing_o at_o all_o concern_v gomenitz_n and_o weston_n 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