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A86467 The grand question concerning the judicature of the House of Peers, stated and argued And the case of Thomas Skinner merchant, complaining of the East India Company, with the proceedings thereupon, which gave occasion to that question, faithfully related. By a true well-wisher to the peace and good government of the kingdom, and to the dignity and authority of parliaments. Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. 1669 (1669) Wing H2459; ESTC R202445 76,537 221

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dionysia_n a_o pretend_a daughter_n of_o william_n de_fw-fr monte_fw-fr caniso_n tenant_n to_o the_o king_n of_o land_n hold_v in_o capite_fw-la and_o former_o enjoy_v by_o her_o father_n in_o his_o life_n time_n whereas_o his_o wife_n be_v true_a heir_n to_o that_o william_n and_o the_o land_n belong_v to_o she_o the_o lord_n of_o the_o council_n justify_v what_o they_o have_v do_v say_v that_o dionysia_n be_v notorious_o know_v to_o be_v the_o true_a daughter_n of_o that_o william_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n in_o who_o diocese_n she_o be_v bear_v testify_v it_o the_o judgement_n be_v ideo_fw-la videtur_fw-la domino_fw-la regi_fw-la quod_fw-la praedictus_fw-la comes_fw-la thesaurar_fw-la &_o alij_fw-la de_fw-la consilio_fw-la bene_fw-la et_fw-la rité_fw-fr processerunt_fw-la it_o be_v not_o now_o sibi_fw-la perquirat_fw-la per_fw-la breve_fw-la de_fw-la cancel_v they_o do_v not_o refer_v he_o to_o the_o chancery_n as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o other_o case_n this_o be_v in_o 18_o e._n 1._o in_o 20_o e._n 1._o p._n 103._o he_o come_v again_o to_o parliament_n and_o renew_v his_o complaint_n and_o that_o judgement_n give_v before_o be_v confirm_v the_o word_n be_v these_o et_fw-fr de_fw-fr alijs_fw-la petitionibus_fw-la suis_fw-la viz._n de_fw-fr hoereditate_v willielmi_n de_fw-fr monte_fw-fr caniso_n petenda_fw-la et_fw-la etiam_fw-la quod_fw-la procedatur_fw-la juxta_fw-la bullam_fw-la quam_fw-la jidem_fw-la williemus_fw-la et_fw-la johanna_n impetrarunt_fw-la ad_fw-la inficiendum_fw-la processum_fw-la perquod_fw-la dionysia_n filia_fw-la proedicti_fw-la willielmi_n legitima_fw-la censebatur_fw-la alias_o eye_v responsum_fw-la fuit_fw-la viz._n in_fw-la parliamento_fw-la post_fw-la natale_n domini_fw-la anno_fw-la 18._o ut_fw-la patet_fw-la in_o rotulis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la parliamenti_fw-la ad_fw-la quam_fw-la responsionem_fw-la se_fw-la teneant_fw-la etc._n etc._n nothing_o can_v be_v clear_a than_o the_o continual_a practice_n of_o this_o 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