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A31192 The case of Tho. Dangerfield with some remarkable passages that happened at the tryals of Elizabeth Cellier, the popish midwife, and the Earl of Castlemain, at the Kings-bench bar at Westminster, before Sir Will. Scroggs Kt, Lord Chief Justice, &c. in the month of June, 1680 : together with divers informations never yet publisht, John Gadbury his testimony, with all its evasions, some points of law insisted upon by the king & prisoners counsel; and the chief justice his opinion given therein, the manner and occasion of Dangerfield's commitment to prison, and also of his being discharged again and some animadversions upon the L.C.J. words / written by the hand of an indifferent person. Dangerfield, Thomas, 1650?-1685. 1680 (1680) Wing C1181; ESTC R2325 44,781 42

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