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5._o the_o text_n you_o urge_v prove_v not_o your_o assertion_n for_o first_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o their_o communicate_v in_o wine_n only_o which_o be_v one_o part_n of_o your_o assertion_n 2._o break_v of_o bread_n do_v not_o infer_v their_o sacramental_a receive_n of_o bread_n only_o it_o be_v a_o note_a hebrew_n phrase_n and_o be_v as_o much_o as_o give_v or_o eat_v of_o meat_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o as_o lament_v 4.4_o isai_n 58.7_o sanctius_n upon_o the_o text_n you_o mention_n say_v omnis_fw-la cibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o kind_n of_o meat_n in_o scripture_n language_n be_v call_v bread_n but_o beside_o how_o will_v it_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n lyranus_fw-la understand_v it_o of_o ordinary_a eat_n so_o do_v chrysostome_n and_o oecumenius_n and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v understand_v of_o their_o love-feast_n which_o be_v mean_n of_o preserve_a charity_n among_o christian_n or_o of_o the_o distribution_n of_o meat_n out_o 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the_o sacrament_n or_o if_o it_o be_v bread_n must_v be_v take_v for_o both_o element_n and_o either_o of_o these_o do_v destroy_v the_o inference_n you_o raise_v from_o the_o text._n to_o conclude_v look_v you_o into_o the_o primitive_a time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o christ_n and_o see_v if_o you_o find_v communion_n under_o one_o kind_n a_o article_n of_o faith_n as_o now_o it_o be_v and_o if_o you_o find_v it_o not_o as_o i_o be_o sure_a you_o can_v cease_v that_o loud_a cry_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o your_o faith_n wherewith_o you_o fill_v the_o ear_n and_o puzzle_v the_o head_n of_o illiterate_a and_o credulous_a person_n the_o epilogue_n i_o have_v do_v with_o the_o book_n the_o epilogue_n only_o remain_v shuft_v up_o with_o feign_a and_o flatter_a word_n to_o deceive_v the_o simple_a reader_n contain_v more_o rhetoric_n than_o logic_n more_o of_o word_n than_o reason_n and_o therefore_o not_o worthy_a any_o particular_a inquisition_n and_o confutation_n yet_o in_o imitation_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v address_v myself_o to_o the_o reader_n by_o way_n of_o advice_n against_o the_o delusiv_a charm_n of_o this_o siren_n desire_v thou_o to_o consider_v his_o assertion_n and_o my_o answer_n to_o they_o and_o weigh_v they_o by_o scripture_n and_o reason_n and_o what_o thou_o find_v according_a to_o these_o receive_v and_o entertain_v i_o will_v not_o with_o this_o author_n persuade_v thou_o to_o a_o groundless_a credulity_n that_o thou_o shall_v receive_v a_o way_n without_o try_v it_o while_o he_o cry_v out_o it_o behoove_v you_o to_o effect_v it_o with_o speed_n and_o not_o stand_v reason_v hâ—w_o this_o why_o the_o other_o reply_n beget_v delay_n and_o delay_n be_v seldom_o out_o of_o the_o ill_a company_n of_o danger_n 124._o epilogue_n pag._n 124._o himself_o deliver_v better_a doctrine_n and_o safe_a for_o thou_o when_o he_o tell_v thou_o that_o christianity_n be_v not_o against_o reason_n and_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v silly_a and_o light_a that_o hasten_v upon_o a_o truth_n ecclus_n 19_o however_o propose_v without_o examination_n of_o its_o credibilitie_n and_o consistence_n with_o nature_n which_o must_v be_v the_o work_n of_o reason_n nay_o more_o 25._o page_n 25._o that_o belief_n be_v behold_v to_o reason_n even_o for_o discern_v and_o find_v out_o her_o guide_n the_o true_a church_n which_o sentence_n i_o leave_v this_o doctor_n to_o reconcile_v be_v not_o of_o those_o silly_a and_o light_a one_o the_o apostle_n bid_v we_o prove_v all_o thing_n and_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a that_o which_o be_v sudden_o believe_v be_v as_o easy_o reject_v as_o before_o receive_v deliberation_n be_v mean_n of_o setledness_n be_v thou_o out_o of_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n return_n and_o live_v angel_n will_v rejoice_v over_o thou_o though_o not_o in_o expectation_n of_o the_o reparation_n of_o their_o ruin_n as_o this_o author_n speak_v they_o be_v happy_a and_o from_o the_o begin_n above_o the_o verge_n of_o a_o ruinous_a estate_n seek_v the_o way_n to_o zion_n peace_n be_v within_o her_o wall_n and_o prosperity_n within_o her_o palace_n have_v thou_o receive_v the_o truth_n hold_v it_o fast_o contend_v earnest_o for_o it_o sell_v it_o not_o let_v not_o the_o image_n of_o babylon_n the_o image_n of_o man_n portray_v upon_o the_o wall_n portray_v with_o vermilion_n gird_v with_o girdle_n upon_o their_o loin_n exceed_v in_o dye_a attire_n upon_o their_o head_n etc._n etc._n allure_v thou_o that_o thou_o shall_v commit_v adultery_n with_o they_o and_o that_o the_o babylonian_n shall_v come_v into_o thy_o bed_n of_o love_n and_o defile_v thou_o with_o their_o whoredom_n and_o thy_o mind_n be_v alienate_v from_o the_o true_a church_n where_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v pure_o preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n right_o administer_v where_o be_v purity_n without_o pomp_n divine_a verity_n without_o humane_a tradition_n religious_a worship_n without_o superstition_n final_o where_o christ_n jesus_n 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p._n 16._o l._n 21._o foe_n 1._o r._n 5._o p._n 19_o l._n 28._o r._n praelati_fw-la p._n 31._o l._n 5._o for_o church_n r._n pope_n p._n 33._o l._n 26._o r._n not_o p._n 52._o l._n 23._o for_o man_n r._n pen_n p._n 59_o l._n 27._o r._n successor_n p._n 65._o l._n 4._o r._n by_o p._n 70._o l._n 19_o r._n dowaist_n p._n 76._o l._n 22._o r._n as_o if_o p._n 81._o l._n 22._o r._n mendata_fw-la &_o 24._o r._n us_o p._n 92._o l._n 1._o for_o hope_n r._n pope_n p._n 103._o l._n 1._o r._n be_v p._n 105._o l._n 30._o r._n be_v p._n 122._o l._n 24._o r._n its_o l_o testimony_n p._n 130._o l._n 2._o r._n i_o e._n p._n 133._o l._n 7._o r._n 1_o trow_v p._n 153._o .27_o r._n mediation_n p._n 136._o l._n 28._o r._n mediation_n 137._o l._n 18._o r._n valid_a p._n 144._o l._n 12._o r._n lean_v p._n 170._o l._n 12._o r._n exorcise_v p._n 178._o l._n 10._o r._n name_v 185._o l._n 18._o r._n way_n p._n 189._o l._n 2._o r._n gross_a carnal_a presence_n p._n 215._o l._n 8._o r._n private_a 217._o l._n 25._o r._n rom._n 8.8_o by_o syricius_n p._n 221._o l._n 1._o be_v p._n 222._o l._n 19_o r._n azorius_fw-la l._n 30._o r._n azorius_fw-la p._n 236._o l._n 1._o r._n omit_v p._n 237._o l._n 16._o r._n in_o they_o p._n 239._o l._n 24._o r._n to_o yourselves_o p._n 253._o l._n 22._o r._n unaccompanied_a p._n 259._o l._n 24._o r._n seven_o p._n 275._o l._n 20._o r._n individed_a p._n 286._o l._n 9_o r._n he_o have_v p._n 291._o l._n 1._o r._n shall_v not_o p._n 292._o l._n 1._o &_o 5._o r._n taste_n p._n 310._o l._n 23._o r._n not_o without_o p._n 312._o l._n 1._o r._n again_o p._n 317._o l._n 15._o deal_n he_o p._n 321._o l._n 2._o &_o 7._o r._n meanness_n p._n 329._o l._n 11._o r._n she_o p._n 343._o l._n 10._o r._n bring_v p._n 347._o l._n 12._o for_o three_o r._n three_o p._n 351._o l._n 2._o r._n term_v l._n 4._o r._n suppose_v
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