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A69532 A learned, vsefull and seasonable discovrse concerning the Chvrch of England, and the Chvrch of Rome addressed by way of letter to M. St. Iohn, a Romish priest / by that eminent author and worthy patriot, Dr. John Bastwick, now prisoner under the popish tyranny at Yorke. Bastwick, John, 1593-1654. 1643 (1643) Wing B1066; ESTC R18862 10,786 12

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Testament not in darke or doubtfull termes but plainely and perspicuously as far as was necessary for our Salvation That these sacred Scriptures being the Iudges of all controversies need not the addition of humane Traditions That we are to serve and obey God not according to the Commandements of men but his owne celestiall sanctions and that therefore the worship of Images is to be abolisht out of our Churches and minds not commanded by God That Holidaies not appointed and sanctified by the Lord need not be observed That the use of all kind of Meates is at any time lawfull being frugally and moderately taken That divine service is mis-celebrated in a language unknowne to the people That ther 's no inherent sanctity in some place more then other nor in any Church and that our prayers are no sooner heard in some one place then another Thus beleeves the Reformed Church But she gives no credit to those prodigious paradoxes viz. That iustifiing faith may be without charity and good workes That faith may be without knowledge of what is to be beleeved That men drown'd in their owne corruptions are indued with certaine preparatives to grace or furnisht with merits of congruity That our conversion to God is not wholly to be ascrib'd to grace but in part to Natures endeavour That election depends of faith fore-scene the motion of our free will That the faithfull may Apostatize and fall from grace That concupiscence is void of sinne That Kings have not their preheminence by divine Right That the Clergy are exempt from the subjection and jurisdiction of Kings That faith is not to be kept with Hereticks That blind Monastick obedience is lawfull and laudable That children may lawfully make and breake vowes without their parents consent That a Clergy mans marriage is more detestable then adultery or murther That the gift of continence is given to all that refuse it not That the Pope may lawfully take tribute of stewes That Sacraments confer grace by the worke wrought That infants baptised are not tainted at all with sinne That Christs body is in divers places at once yet neither visible nor tangible That Bread and Wine are transform'd into the very substance of Christs Flesh and Blood That wicked men eat the flesh of Christ in the Eucharist That t is not lawfull for Laicks to drinke of the Sacramentall Cup These and the like monstrous opinions since Christ the Prophet of the Church hath not taught the Reformed Churches doe not beleeve But concerning Christs Prophetick office your Doctors teach most insincerely viz. That Christ indeed is given by God as a Prophet yet hath he not declar'd to the Church all the will of God nor purposely caus●d it to be written in the Scripture for the decision of controversies of Faith by its Light and Evidence That Scriptures are obscure perillous not to be permitted Laymen to read That Authority of Traditions Fathers and Councels are necessary to the Church to supply the Scriptures imperfection That God is to be worshipt according to the prescript of Mens Lawes That Images are to be set in Churches as instructers of the Ignorant That God may lawfully be effigiated and represented in humane Forme That Holidayes are religiously to be observed and celebrated That we ought to obstaine from Meats at Times appoynted by the Church or Pope That t is no prejudice to our prayers to use an unknowne Language in the publike Lyturgy That one place is more holy then another That a man may beleeve and yet be ignorant and that Faith is best defined by Ignorance That charity may be wanting to justifying Faith That men swallowed up in the Whirpoole of corruption retaine yet certaine preparatories to Grace That our Conversion is to be ascribed both to Nature and Grace That Election depends of Faith and the right use of our free Will That Concupicence is not to be reputed sinne That Kings raigne not by the Authority of Scripture That Clergymen are not bound to any Secular Authority That blind and foolish Obedience in Monks is commendable That the Marriage of Clergymen is equall to Sacrilege or worse That the Bond of Matrimony is not dissolved by Adultery That the Gift of Continence is given to all promiscuously That the Pope may well exact Tribute from Strumpets That children may vow against the will of their parents That Sacraments confer Grace by the work wrought That children once washt with Baptismall water are utterly voyd of sin That all unbaptized persons are condemned to eternall Death That Christs Body is in many places at once yet not subject to sight or touch That Bread and Wine are transubstantiated into Christs Body and Blood That our Lords Body is swallowed by impious persons That Christian people ought not to communicate of the Chalice in the Sacrament Thus they attribute indeed the name of Prophet and Doctor to Christ but all the force and power of his prophetick Office is translated to the Pope Councells and Fathers Now Worthy Sir suppose some wel-affected Christian to be of this Beliefe that he will wholly give eare to and be instructed by Christ our Prophet that he will obey onely the Scripture and Gods will therein revealed suppose this man to beleeve that the Scripture is perfect perspicuous the Judge of all controversies and determiner of all doubts that Laicks ought to read it and regulate their lives and manners by it Doe yee thinke the high honour which this man gives to Christ as to our Chiefe-Prophet shall or can prejudice him Far be so wide and wilde a conceit from your ingenuous Candor For what crime hath he committed which being ignorant of Traditions Holidayes Images Fasting-dayes and a number of the like Ceremonious observances doth soly imbrace those Doctrines which Christ hath taught for the Churches comfort and edification Adde now hereto that the same man is fully confidenced that Scripture cannot without extreme impiety be charged with imperfection or obscurity that t is a great crime to debar the people from reading Scripture and no lesse sin to traine them to the beliefe of Traditions that t is impious to worship God in the shape or likenesse of Man or to expose Images to the peoples Adoration that t is Tyranranicall to obtrude the observance of Holidaies under the terror of Penalties which are instituted by men as also to forbid Meats to sober men at certaine Seasons That t is unlawfull to mumble mutter prayers in a strange Tongue That t is absurd to thinke one place holier then another That t is impossible at once to beleeve and yet to be ignorant or that justifying Faith should subsist without charity or that man wallowing in his corruption should be able to prepare himselfe for Grace or that concupiscence should be put out of the catalogue of sins That they are most execrable Miscreants that deprive the Kings Crowne of its divine Right or exempt the Miter from obedience to the Scepter or breake their Faith with Hereticks or draw monastick persons to a blind obedience or calumniate the Marriage of the Clergy as worse then Adultery That they are absurd and senselesse that teach the Gift of continence to be promiscuous and obvious to all which approve of tribute taken from mercenary Prostitutes which think that children may vow or dis-avow against their parents wils which hold that Matrimony is not violated by Adultery That they erre grievously that pretend the Sacraments collate Grace by the bare worke done that all baptized persons are without all Sin and all unbapatized liable to eternall Damnation That they are the maddest Bedlams that like Corybanticall Priests teach Christs Body to be in many places at once unseene and insensible which dreame of a Metamorphosis and change of Bread and Wine into his Body and Blood which dote that our Lords Flesh may be swallowed and devoured by impious Wretches which preclude the Cup from the people though Christ himselfe reach it to them in the Scripture which adore a Wafer in stead of Christ which vainly imagine his corporall presence on earth being consign'd to Heaven till the end of the World Can such a mans ignorance of these Romish Trumperies or his beliefe of Christs sincere Doctrine hurt him when he is alive or damne him for ever being Dead What cruell Rhadamanth or Judge of Hell can passe such a Sentence For what crime is there here What Law hath he transgrest shall any man be blam'd for being afraid to Idolatrize or to worship God after his owne voluntary invention shall he be condemn'd for abandoning the impious and absurd Traditions of Men and obeying the Doctor and Prophet that is given us from Heaven Thus if we collate and parallel the adverse Opinions of the Romish and Reformed Churches it will soone appear which Party is most Zealous of Religion and Piety which is its proper Fruit and product And now most Worthy Sir if I seeme to you to be of a dull understanding and weake judgement pray be pleased to helpe me in this exigent which as it will be a worke worthy of you so most welcome to me Take the Lanthorn of Gods Word in your hand enlighten my Darkenesse shew me the way of God and reduce me from the By-pathes of Error I promise you to banish from me all pertinicious opinionativenesse if I shall see you compleately arm'd with Scriptures proofes But if should attemt to cry downe our Churches Doctrine with clamors onely and Great words and brags of Eminent but Humane Authorities We shall easily sleight such braving Arrogance your rare curtesie commands me to be confident that you will not faile to doe me this good Office For it is not credible that you who are reported to have challeng'd the chiefe of our Champions to the Combate will now refuse as a Master to instruct in the wayes of God so willing a Scholler Adieu most Learned Sir and love Your most affectionate IOHN BASTWICK FINIS ●…ver ●…gi c. 5. ●…ol 2 ●…ac 28 ●…eb 7. ●…ay 9. ●…oc 17 ●… 18.38 ●…k 1.33 Deut. ●… 18.