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author_n practice_n in_o such_o case_n nor_o shall_v i_o much_o insist_v upon_o that_o passage_n that_o christ_n humanity_n abstractive_o consider_v be_v adorable_a with_o a_o worship_n not_o exceed_v that_o due_a to_o a_o creature_n ibid._n ibid._n for_o we_o be_v not_o now_o talk_v of_o inferior_a adoration_n but_o supreme_a divine_a worship_n we_o know_v that_o adorare_fw-la be_v by_o some_o take_v for_o manum_fw-la ori_fw-la admovere_fw-la to_o kiss_v the_o hand_n or_o any_o thing_n else_o in_o token_n of_o respect_n which_o as_o some_o papist_n will_v persuade_v we_o be_v all_o they_o do_v to_o their_o image_n but_o it_o be_v certain_o foppery_n if_o it_o be_v no_o worse_o to_o do_v so_o to_o any_o thing_n but_o a_o intelligent_a be_v beside_o we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d a_o lucian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ceremony_n of_o the_o heathen_a idolatry_n and_o job_n be_v of_o opinion_n ibid._n ibid._n that_o if_o he_o have_v use_v it_o to_o the_o sun_n in_o which_o our_o author_n new_o instanced_a it_o have_v be_v a_o iniquity_n to_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o judge_n for_o he_o shall_v have_v deny_v the_o god_n that_o be_v above_o job_n xxxi_o 26.27.28_o in_o the_o five_o section_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o protestant_n 1._o disc_n ii_o pag._n 2._o §_o 5._o n._n 1._o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n especial_o grant_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v real_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n not_o in_o virtue_n only_o but_o in_o substance_n and_o that_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v not_o sever_v from_o his_o person_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n this_o we_o likewise_o grant_v he_o as_o we_o have_v already_o explain_v it_o according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o those_o protestant_n and_o so_o pass_v over_o the_o quotation_n which_o take_v up_o the_o two_o next_o section_n together_o with_o abundance_n of_o advantage_n that_o a_o adversary_n may_v take_v for_o we_o be_v now_o in_o pursuit_n of_o a_o argument_n that_o be_v in_o some_o danger_n to_o be_v lose_v in_o this_o mist_n of_o quotation_n these_o be_v all_o the_o concession_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v concern_v and_o therefore_o we_o may_v pass_v over_o the_o two_o next_o which_o i_o can_v imagine_v to_o what_o purpose_n he_o mention_n 7._o disc_n ii_o pag_n 10._o §_o 7._o for_o though_o the_o lutheran_n grant_v as_o some_o not_o all_o of_o they_o do_v that_o during_o the_o action_n of_o the_o eucharist_n christ_n body_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v as_o by_o consubstantiation_n present_a to_o the_o consecrate_a symbol_n i_o see_v not_o what_o advantage_n this_o concession_n give_v to_o his_o cause_n or_o how_o it_o be_v any_o way_n prejudicial_a to_o we_o for_o the_o lutheran_n hold_v a_o local_a presence_n wherefore_o some_o of_o they_o think_v they_o may_v adore_v and_o if_o we_o can_v believe_v their_o presence_n we_o shall_v not_o contest_v their_o adoration_n 11._o ibid_fw-la p._n 11._o to_o as_o little_a purpose_n do_v he_o press_v we_o with_o mounseur_fw-fr daille_n concession_n for_o if_o he_o grant_v more_o than_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v she_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o defend_v he_o though_o in_o this_o case_n i_o think_v he_o do_v not_o and_o so_o we_o may_v safe_o join_v with_o he_o in_o his_o concession_n for_o the_o reason_n why_o we_o can_v communicate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o bare_o because_o she_o hold_v a_o error_n but_o because_o she_o propose_v it_o under_o a_o anathema_n and_o ground_n a_o idolatrous_a practice_n upon_o it_o and_o require_v our_o consent_n to_o both_o these_o thing_n as_o a_o term_n of_o her_o communion_n this_o the_o lutheran_n do_v not_o and_o therefore_o though_o their_o opinion_n be_v erroneous_a their_o communion_n need_v not_o be_v unlawful_a now_o to_o see_v with_o what_o judgement_n the_o defender_n make_v use_v of_o this_o concession_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o protestant_n by_o their_o own_o rule_n ought_v to_o join_v in_o the_o popish_a adoration_n and_o his_o argument_n be_v that_o mons_fw-la daillè_fw-la say_v we_o can_v communicate_v with_o the_o papist_n as_o long_a as_o they_o impose_v their_o adoration_n though_o otherwise_o we_o may_v if_o they_o only_o believe_v erroneous_o and_o keep_v their_o error_n to_o themselves_o 12._o ibid._n p._n 12._o once_o more_o this_o judicious_a author_n appeal_v to_o m._n daillè_fw-la who_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v that_o to_o worship_n any_o host_n be_v idolatry_n yet_o grant_v if_o the_o case_n be_v otherwise_o and_o if_o a_o consecrate_a host_n be_v true_o adorable_a it_o be_v possible_a to_o adore_v one_o that_o be_v not_o consecrate_a without_o commit_v formal_a idolatry_n likewise_o he_o and_o dr._n stillingfleet_n grant_v that_o when_o christ_n be_v upon_o earth_n where_o his_o person_n be_v confess_o adorable_a a_o man_n that_o by_o inculpable_a mistake_n have_v adore_v another_o person_n for_o he_o may_v have_v likewise_o be_v absolve_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o formal_a idolatry_n and_o both_o these_o concession_n be_v as_o certain_o true_a as_o certan_o allege_v to_o no_o purpose_n but_o perhaps_o the_o author_n mean_v the_o reason_n only_o not_o the_o instance_n to_o be_v pertinent_a and_o will_v infer_v no_o more_o but_o that_o papist_n by_o our_o own_o concession_n may_v be_v no_o idolater_n though_o they_o worship_v a_o creature_n because_o they_o may_v do_v this_o by_o a_o inculpable_a mistake_n this_o i_o grant_v may_v be_v something_o not_o to_o his_o but_o to_o the_o papist_n purpose_n if_o he_o prove_v they_o inculpable_o mistake_v but_o that_o we_o shall_v suppose_v they_o so_o i_o can_v see_v why_o he_o shall_v pretend_v for_o he_o know_v that_o we_o think_v transubstantiation_n to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o mistake_n a_o flat_a and_o manifest_a defiance_n of_o sense_n and_o reason_n scripture_n and_o tradition_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n more_o culpable_a than_o the_o gross_a heathen_a mistake_n for_o they_o to_o mention_v no_o other_o disparity_n want_v the_o light_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o papist_n have_v and_o shut_v their_o eye_n against_o and_o this_o in_o our_o opinion_n make_v a_o vast_a difference_n between_o the_o popish_a and_o heathen_a idolatry_n chap._n viii_o a_o reply_n to_o the_o six_o next_o section_n of_o the_o second_o discourse_n beginning_n at_o §._o 9_o so_o much_o for_o the_o protestant_a concession_n the_o defender_n in_o the_o six_o next_o section_n pretend_v to_o lay_v down_o catholic_a assertion_n which_o i_o doubt_v will_v be_v no_o more_o allow_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o his_o protestant_a concession_n be_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n first_o he_o tell_v we_o thaâ—_n catholic_o affirm_v there_o be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n a_o sign_n distinct_a and_o have_v a_o divers_a existence_n from_o the_o thing_n signify_v 9_o disc_n ii_o pag._n 13._o §._o 9_o whence_o he_o conclude_v that_o dr._n stillingfleet_n do_v they_o wrong_n when_o he_o say_v they_o grant_v the_o sign_n to_o be_v hypostatical_o unite_v to_o the_o thing_n signify_v a_o sign_n there_o must_v be_v say_v his_o own_o quotation_n out_o of_o bellarmin_n or_o there_o can_v be_v no_o sacrament_n wherefore_o we_o presume_v they_o hold_v a_o sign_n but_o then_o the_o sign_n as_o they_o explain_v it_o be_v neither_o the_o sign_n institute_v by_o christ_n which_o doubless_a a_o sacramental_a sign_n ought_v to_o be_v nor_o indeed_o any_o other_o sign_n but_o a_o sign_n that_o signify_v nothing_o then_o for_o the_o separate_a existence_n of_o it_o some_o papist_n do_v not_o hold_v that_o neither_o as_o the_o author_n can_v not_o but_o see_v in_o that_o very_a place_n of_o dr_n taylor_n which_o he_o refer_v to_o in_o this_o section_n which_o make_v it_o somewhat_o strange_a that_o so_o liberal_a a_o quoter_n shall_v here_o be_v so_o unreasonable_o spare_v as_o not_o to_o afford_v we_o one_o testimony_n that_o express_o own_v this_o separate_a existence_n but_o all_o papist_n that_o will_v talk_v consistent_o must_v deny_v it_o not_o only_o because_o a_o accident_n can_v exist_v without_o inherence_n but_o because_o they_o hold_v the_o species_n unite_v to_o the_o body_n to_o make_v one_o entire_a object_n of_o adoration_n which_o can_v be_v without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n wherefore_o bellarmin_n and_o valentia_n though_o they_o do_v not_o use_v the_o term_n hypostatical_o yet_o find_v themselves_o oblige_v to_o say_v the_o thing_n and_o explain_v the_o union_n of_o the_o species_n to_o the_o body_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o they_o do_v the_o hypostatical_a union_n valentia_n indeed_o be_v so_o much_o a_o jesuit_n as_o have_v say_v the_o thing_n to_o deny_v the_o word_n but_o bellarmin_n be_v more_o consider_v and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o excellent_a person_n say_v
fancifull_a opinion_n which_o make_v they_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o philosophy_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o man_n and_o undo_v and_o cancel_v the_o principle_n of_o two_o or_o three_o science_n and_o these_o word_n which_o one_o will_v think_v be_v not_o so_o very_o favourable_a and_o absolve_a lie_v just_a between_o the_o two_o sentence_n the_o defender_n have_v transcribe_v in_o the_o next_o paragraph_n he_o call_v idolatry_n the_o crime_n which_o papist_n formal_o hate_v and_o we_o material_o avoid_v and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o to_o that_o say_v if_o they_o who_o do_v as_o the_o papist_n do_v be_v not_o formal_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n there_o be_v no_o danger_n their_o disciple_n shall_v be_v so_o so_o that_o he_o plain_o own_v they_o guilty_a of_o material_a and_o dare_v not_o venture_v to_o acquit_v they_o even_o of_o formal_a idolatry_n notwithstanding_o the_o defender_n go_v on_o at_o all_o adventure_n 35._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 31._o §._o 35._o and_o will_v have_v it_o a_o fault_n in_o dr._n taylor_n to_o say_v in_o one_o book_n that_o if_o papist_n be_v deceive_v in_o transubstantiation_n it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n whereas_o he_o say_v in_o another_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o very_a course_n compliment_n to_o his_o reader_n for_o it_o either_o suppose_v he_o so_o lazy_a as_o not_o to_o look_v back_o what_o word_n those_o &_o cetera's_fw-la stand_v for_o or_o if_o he_o do_v so_o dull_a as_o not_o to_o see_v that_o dr._n taylor_n in_o both_o these_o quotation_n only_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o material_a idolatry_n ibid._n ibid._n he_o will_v likewise_o have_v m._n daillé_n to_o be_v faulty_a for_o oppose_v the_o papist_n with_o such_o a_o form_n of_o argument_n as_o will_v prove_v the_o lutheran_n to_o worship_v a_o mite_n but_o instead_o of_o his_o miserable_a thatwhich_a solution_n let_v he_o interpret_v the_o word_n join_v in_o the_o major_a of_o his_o own_o syllogism_n by_o consubstantiate_a as_o he_o must_v do_v if_o he_o mean_v to_o oppose_v the_o lutheran_n and_o he_o will_v find_v that_o it_o have_v four_o term_n in_o the_o three_o place_n faulty_a with_o he_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n for_o two_o or_o three_o reason_n which_o as_o they_o have_v be_v urge_v so_o they_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o but_o he_o tell_v we_o we_o in_o good_a time_n that_o catholic_n grant_v as_o much_o as_o the_o dr._n that_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n in_o any_o thing_n be_v no_o good_a ground_n to_o pay_v divine_a worship_n to_o that_o thing_n for_o he_o hope_v we_o have_v forget_v his_o abstract_n from_o a_o corporal_n and_o ground_v his_o adoration_n precise_o upon_o a_o real_a presence_n we_o desire_v he_o will_v stick_v to_o this_o grant_n and_o that_o supposal_n and_o then_o show_v what_o trick_n he_o have_v leave_v to_o evade_v idolatry_n 31._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 36_o 37._o §_o 31._o he_o conclude_v all_o these_o be_v faulty_a i_o say_v why_o so_o positive_a good_a sir_n why_o because_o they_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o worship_v a_o creature_n instead_o of_o christ_n from_o which_o other_o protestant_n clear_v they_o but_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n give_v better_a reason_n then_o the_o clearer_n or_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n be_v the_o far_o great_a number_n be_v a_o majority_n the_o guide_n belove_a argument_n grow_v out_o of_o favour_n or_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n and_o the_o clearer_n both_o agree_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n as_o indeed_o they_o do_v for_o the_o one_o part_n only_o say_v that_o the_o papist_n worship_v bread_n and_o the_o other_o that_o it_o be_v true_a they_o do_v so_o but_o it_o be_v more_o than_o they_o mean_v to_o do_v to_o conclude_v the_o papist_n direct_v the_o act_n of_o adoration_n to_o the_o species_n suppose_v christ_n to_o be_v local_o present_a under_o they_o but_o if_o christ_n be_v not_o so_o but_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n instead_o of_o he_o as_o the_o protestant_n affirm_v and_o prove_v then_o the_o papist_n who_o intentional_o worship_n christ_n do_v actual_o pay_v their_o worship_n to_o bread_n instead_o of_o he_o which_o be_v all_o the_o protestant_n accuse_v they_o of_o for_o that_o act_n be_v as_o certain_o a_o species_n of_o idolatry_n as_o the_o object_n have_v the_o species_n of_o bread_n 35._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 37._o §._o 35._o the_o five_o and_o last_o protestant_n author_n that_o be_v quote_v be_v the_o reverend_n and_o learned_a dr._n hammond_n who_o according_a to_o the_o defender_n seem_v to_o charge_v the_o papist_n rather_o with_o a_o material_a then_o formal_a idolatry_n and_o this_o material_a idolatry_n we_o be_v tell_v like_o material_a adultery_n may_v in_o many_o case_n be_v commit_v without_o sin_n this_o latter_a doctrine_n i_o believe_v be_v none_o of_o dr._n hammond_n for_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o plain_a scripture_n for_o when_o abimelech_n gen_n xx._n have_v like_a to_o have_v commit_v material_a adultery_n with_o sarah_n and_o be_v reprove_v in_o a_o dream_n plead_v the_o innocence_n of_o his_o intention_n god_n acknowledge_v this_o innocence_n and_o say_v for_o i_o also_o withhold_v thou_o from_o sin_v against_o i_o therefore_o i_o suffer_v thou_o not_o to_o touch_v her_o v._o 6._o so_o that_o it_o seem_v the_o act_n have_v be_v a_o sin_n against_o god_n 5._o v_o 5._o notwithstanding_o abimelech_n do_v it_o in_o the_o integrity_n of_o his_o heart_n and_o the_o innocence_n of_o his_o hand_n but_o to_o return_v to_o dr._n hammond_n it_o be_v plain_a he_o have_v hearty_o endeavour_v to_o strain_v his_o charity_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o censure_v the_o papist_n as_o severe_o as_o any_o sober_a protestant_n ever_o do_v and_o the_o reader_n will_v be_v full_o satisfy_v of_o this_o truth_n if_o he_o please_v to_o consult_v for_o it_o will_v be_v too_o much_o to_o transcribe_v the_o etc._n the_o §_o 63._o he_o deliver_v himself_o to_o this_o effect_n to_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n must_v certain_o be_v idolatry_n in_o the_o literal_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n and_o they_o that_o do_v this_o upon_o any_o the_o subtle_a ground_n that_o by_o any_o error_n or_o mistake_n be_v it_o never_o so_o pious_o take_v up_o believe_v it_o not_o to_o be_v bread_n but_o very_o christ_n incarnate_a and_o thereupon_o worship_n it_o these_o i_o say_v in_o case_n they_o be_v mistake_v though_o they_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o all_o the_o aggravation_n that_o belong_v to_o it_o among_o the_o heathen_a yet_o i_o can_v free_v they_o from_o the_o charge_n of_o worship_v a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n nine_o section_n which_o the_o dr_n have_v write_v upon_o this_o subject_a begin_v §_o 63._o of_o his_o discourse_n of_o idolatry_n i_o assure_v myself_o the_o mild_a censure_n that_o can_v be_v pass_v upon_o the_o defender_n will_v be_v that_o he_o never_o read_v that_o discourse_n but_o he_o think_v he_o have_v lance_v we_o to_o the_o quick_a 32._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 37._o §_o 32._o when_o he_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o our_o forefather_n who_o for_o many_o centurye_n be_v such_o idolater_n as_o we_o make_v the_o present_a papist_n poor_a man_n where_o have_v he_o be_v sleep_v these_o fifty_o year_n that_o he_o know_v not_o this_o stale_a objection_n have_v be_v so_o often_o urge_v and_o answer_v that_o all_o understand_a papist_n be_v now_o ashamed_a to_o make_v use_n of_o it_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o we_o be_v likely_a to_o part_v good_a friend_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o his_o catholic_o grant_v it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o worship_v the_o bread_n if_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v god_n 33._o ibid._n §._o 33._o or_o direct_v the_o outward_a act_n to_o our_o lord_n as_o corporal_o present_v in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v he_o so_o present_a thus_o instead_o of_o defend_v his_o catholic_n for_o adore_v he_o gracious_o absolve_v the_o protestant_n for_o not_o adore_v as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o submit_v our_o judgement_n to_o the_o church_n that_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n for_o he_o know_v that_o we_o insist_v upon_o it_o that_o popery_n in_o this_o point_n do_v direct_o and_o manifest_o overthrow_v all_o the_o principle_n of_o sense_n of_o reason_n &_o religion_n and_o we_o be_v not_o so_o singular_a in_o this_o opinion_n but_o that_o papist_n themselves_o own_v they_o can_v in_o this_o question_n pretend_v to_o scripture_n without_o first_o defy_v sense_n &_o reason_n in_o the_o last_o section_n the_o defender_n propose_v two_o question_n which_o he_o think_v the_o most_o material_a in_o this_o dispute_n 1._o 34._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 38._o §_o 34._o whether_o the_o popish_a