Selected quad for the lemma: heaven_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
heaven_n	father_n	son_n	trinity_n	2,382	5	9.7008	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93367	The heads and substance of a discourse; first private, and afterwards publike; held in Axbridge, in the county of Somerset, about the 6th of March, 1650. Between Iohn Smith of Badgworth, and Charls Carlile of Bitsham, &c. on the one part; and Thomas Collier of Westbury on the other. Things they are of weight and highest concernment. / Published by the said Tho. Collier of Westbury.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.; Smith, John, of Badgworth.; Carlile, Charles.	1651 (1651)	Wing S4091; Thomason E1368_2; ESTC R209287	11,613	29

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second_o 2._o he_o deny_v a_o local_a heaven_n in_o this_o i_o deny_v heaven_n to_o be_v a_o particular_a limit_a place_n i_o acknowledge_v that_o heaven_n must_v have_v some_o place_n for_o that_o which_o have_v no_o place_n have_v no_o be_v but_o that_o as_o far_o as_o i_o know_v it_o be_v not_o a_o limit_a place_n that_o be_v some_o place_n of_o glory_n above_o the_o firmament_n as_o be_v imagine_v but_o that_o heaven_n relate_v rather_o to_o a_o condition_n of_o glory_n than_o a_o place_n of_o glory_n and_o it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n but_o the_o condition_n which_o make_v either_o heaven_n or_o hell_n he_o viz._n parson_n smith_n proceed_v to_o proof_n produce_v that_o of_o paul_n be_v in_o the_o three_o heaven_n 2_o cor._n 12._o i_o ask_v he_o if_o he_o think_v that_o paul_n be_v take_v up_o above_o the_o starry_a firmament_n he_o answer_v yea_o for_o he_o know_v no_o other_o heaven_n i_o answer_v i_o know_v another_o heaven_n which_o christ_n speak_v of_o which_o be_v within_o 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